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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-05 06:07 PM Original message |
GOP talking point and counter:'Unless a nominee is more extreme than Janice |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-05 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
1. Brooks never gets anything right. Only right wing. |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-05 07:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
62. He sure gets the WH talking points right. There must be a regular |
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RUMPLEMINTZ (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-05 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
2. That's the whole problem |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-05 08:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Harry didn't sign the agreement, so he's not bound by it. |
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Internut (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-05 08:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. He isn't, but the seven Democrats who did sign it are - |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-05 10:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. So you agree with David Brooks? Why? Why are you ratifying an important |
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Internut (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-05 11:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. If you read the memo you will see |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-05 11:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Read a bit further, or read my original post. The seven Republicans |
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Internut (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-05 11:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. That's just plainly not true. |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-05 11:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. "NO! Each signatory must use his or her own discretion and judgment in" |
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Internut (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-05 11:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. No they cannot decide for Democrats |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-05 11:53 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. No, you DEFINITELY misunderstand the clear provisions of the agreement. |
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Internut (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 12:05 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Did. I stand by my interpretation, which is |
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dansolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 12:04 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. The problem is that it is ambiguous |
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Internut (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 12:07 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. The rule of thumb in contracts is if the language |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 12:15 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. See post #16 to your alter-ego |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 12:11 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Where is the ambiguity in paragraph IIB? There is none. The agreement |
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Internut (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 12:17 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I don't know how to explain this more clearly but I will try - |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 12:21 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. You have not answered my question in post #16. Where is the "OUT" in |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 12:33 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. "In light of the spirit and continuing commitments made in this agreement" |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 02:27 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Maybe even more than Democrats, 'moderate' Republicans may oppose |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 03:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. 55-7=48 |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 03:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. 55 - 6 = 49, meaning that, with Cheney's tie-breaker vote, Frist |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 06:08 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. You need to to tie at 50 for Cheney to break the tie |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 06:40 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. I agree. 49+1=50 is a corollary of my post #32. Frist need buy just 1 |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 06:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. 51-49 Frist is defeated |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 06:59 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Oh, I see what you're saying. You may be right. Do you have a link? |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 07:41 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. A link to what? |
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DukeDevil (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 04:14 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. who defines "extraordinary" |
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Internut (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 12:35 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. The out is breach of contract on the other side - |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 05:44 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. SOPHISTRY! You've gone from arguing the memo buttresses Brooks |
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Internut (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 10:53 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Now you are just arguing by assertion - |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 03:16 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. They have done no such thing |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 03:54 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Humbug! That phrase is pure "filler" with no operational effect. |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 06:16 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. I see no other reason that phrase would be inserted |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 07:02 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Kudos for expressing honest doubt about your position. |
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Internut (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 07:29 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Wishful thinking. |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 07:56 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. National Review May 24th: 'AN ASYMMETRIC DEAL (Ramesh Ponnuru) |
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Internut (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 07:58 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. It is VERY simple to decide our argument - |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 08:16 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Wishful thinking is expecting that the average attorney might tell anyone |
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Internut (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-05 02:28 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Let's see what one of the Republican seven says about it |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-05 06:42 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. See post #6. Evidently you've learned NOTHING from this thread, and need |
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Internut (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-05 09:09 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. You don't get it at all - |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-05 11:36 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. But those 7 Rs are held back by the accusations of "BAD FAITH!" 44 Ds |
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Internut (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-05 12:29 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Your problem is you think they "gave" something |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-05 01:15 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Enjoy your glass of Kool-Aid. I form my own opinions based on the evidence. |
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Leafy Geneva (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-05 10:05 AM Response to Reply #18 |
54. I don't agree. |
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Internut (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-05 10:28 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. The "all of them" comes from the numbers - |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-05 06:24 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. Precisely, Leafy Geneva. Thanks for not letting the misintepretation |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 12:24 AM Response to Reply #4 |
20. Thanks for being such a good "foil". |
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kainah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-05 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
3. that advice and consent clause |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 12:51 AM Response to Reply #3 |
23. what I got from it, between the lines: |
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CityDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 05:47 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. That was my original thought |
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kainah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 09:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. the wingers are after Graham and DeWine |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 06:06 AM Response to Original message |
25. Extroadinary circumstances could mean just about anything. |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 06:13 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Precisely! You've got it! |
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LizW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
28. Al Franken talking about this just now |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 05:29 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Great points, Liz. NOW they say, 'By the way, no 'extraordinary |
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kainah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
49. the same line used by Tony Perkins tonight |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-05 09:30 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Great point: What could be MORE 'extraordinary' than the way the Owen, |
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mandomom (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-05 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
55. Extraordinary |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-05 12:01 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. That IS a great talking point for our side. Courts have to represent the |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-05 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
63. See also a Washington Post story on dueling interpretations |
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