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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 02:04 AM
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1 of DU's Favorite GOP Moderates, John Warner:Nuclear Option Not Off Table
Here's what he said on Faux yesterday!

HUME: ... is now off the table. However, let us look ahead, Senator Warner, and posit a situation in which we're past these three judges who were enumerated in the deal, and another of the judges already nominated, or a new one comes along, and Democrats announce they're going to filibuster. What happens then?

WARNER: Well, let's go back to your opening statement. This filibuster rule that we preserved by virtue of this framework — clearly in the agreement, and I've got a copy here, the constitutional option, which we call it, is not off the table. And we all 14 understand that. It is very much on the table.

To use an example, we simply unscrewed the fuse. But that fuse can be put back in if we detect that it's not extraordinary circumstances, but we're back to where the Democrats begin to trot out and do a leadership-led type of series of filibusters.

At that point, senators, seven senators of which I was one, any one or more of them may say, "Time out. I'm not satisfied that this is extraordinary circumstances as a matter of good conscience. I'm going to give leader Bill Frist the vote." And then Frist can ascertain whether or not he wants to use that constitutional measure.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,157576,00.html

With DeWine, Graham, and now Warner, that moves us to 51 the number of senators willing to go nuclear.

The first time we filibuster, they're going to go nuclear. Count on it.

This deal was nothing more than a PR move for the GOP, they'll be in a better position to go nuclear when they can blast all over TV that the mean old Democrats reneged on the much vaulted agreement.
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Skarbrowe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 02:09 AM
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1. That's what I was thinking. n/t
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 02:14 AM
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2. I believe the GOP wants the nuclear option for deeper reasons.
They know what the Democratic response would likely be. Dems would move to slow down - if not outright stop - the workings of the Senate.

Then, come '06, Republicans can campaign against "obstructionist" Democrats. "We need more good Republicans in office," Bush will say, "so the Congress can get back to doing the will of the people."

And, worst of all, it could work. Worked for Clinton in '96. He hammered Gingrich and Dole endlessly for shutting down the government in '95.

In the end, it's all about winning.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 02:18 AM
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3. I agree with you
I've never understood how people think shutting down the Senate will be a winning issue with voters.
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Califooyah Operative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 02:51 AM
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4. it's not
outside of politics most people i've talked to think of this battle as childish and unneccessary, they want congress to do the work of the people, not shut down, many however do not realize that this republican majority is hardly doing the work of the people.

As partisans, as people into politics, it sounds great, step back and I don't think it's in our best interests to shut down the senate unless we absolutely have to and can easily show we did it because we had to as a last resort.
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