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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 09:45 AM
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If you ever had any doubts about the power and influence of AIPAC
you just had to hear how Arrianna skirted a caller's question and comment about AIPAC to C-Span this morning. I love Arriannna and she is usually direct, tactful, and honest in her responses. But about the power and influence of AIPAC on our Congress (and media in my opinion) she is like everyone else in the public eye...afraid to speak the truth and brushes off every comment about AIPAC as a "consipiracy theory." I was disappointed in her response to this caller. But I love her anyway.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:05 AM
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1. I don't know how you DO doubt it.
Just look at our UN voting record on issues regarding Israel. The votes are usually in the area of 140 versus 6, with the six being the United States, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru, Palau, and Israel themselves.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:24 AM
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2. I think you mean APIPAC
American Petroleum Institute Political Action Committee.

1) Oil Man Bush and Oil Man Cheney - got ANWR opened up for drilling.

2) Oil Man Bush and Oil Man Cheney - opening up the Mississippi Riveria (Like Pass Christian) for drilling -

3) CAFE hasn't been increased since Carter (not by Reagan, not by Bush I, not by Clinton, not by Bush II)

4) Our "Blood for Oil" war in Iraq.

5) The "Blood for Oil" wars we are going to be drawn into in the Caspian, Iran, and Venezuela.

6) The not even token research we have done on alternative and renewable energy.

    Don't be misled by the hydrogen fuel cell cars -- can I say a dirty word -
    T H E R M O D Y N A M I C S

    - the hydrogen fuel cell car is science fiction.

    Check out the LINKS in the appends in the

    a)

    b)


It's APIPAC --- not AIPAC.

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UnityDem Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:51 AM
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3. 2 Different groups/Israel AIPAC
AIPAC is American Israel Public Affairs Committee.
http://www.aipac.org/

Huffington was asked about this group and other Israeli/Jewish groups having too much influence. She did not comment as the question was asked in conjunction with something else.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:17 PM
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6. I was being nasty, facetious
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 12:30 PM by Coastie for Truth
I am a PhD chemical engineer (when I went to school that meant "petroleum refinery engineering") and never had the opportunity to work in the petroleum industry. You may want to check out the API's

I know what AIPAC is - that's why I was never hired by the oil industry.
I am of the wrong race or religion or national origin or gender or gender orientation or some other protected class from which the oil industry is exempt.

And what about the power and influence of the Petroleum Industry's A{I and APIPAC on our Congress (and media in my opinion). We haven't had a President since Carter would would look the API and APIPAC in the eye.
Every criticism of API and APIPAC is treated like some kind of crazy eco terrorist terror act on a Hummer dealer.

Read what API doesn't want you to read - and what Bush/Ceney wants to keep from you (That's cause Kuntsler's "long winter" described in "The Long Emergency: Surviving the End of the Oil Age, Climate Change, and Other Converging Catastrophes of the Twenty-first Century" won't hapen until after Bush/Cheney are out of office)--

    1. Matthew Simmons, "Twilight in the Desert: The Coming Saudi Oil Shock and the World Economy"
    2. Ken Deffeyes, "Beyond Oil: The View from Hubbert's Peak"
    3. Ken Deffeyes, "Hubbert's Peak: The Impending World Oil Shortage"
    4. David Goodstein, "Out of Gas: The End of the Age Of Oil"
    5. Daniel Yergin, "Prize: TheEpic Quest for Oil Money and Power"


Please, AIPAC won't make a good pimple on API's butt.

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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:03 AM
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4. How can you love someone who enthusiastically and with all
conviction worked like hell to bring Clinton down. Despite her family value preachings to us in the 1990's, she was a zealot and in complete sync with all the radicals. She was also an enthusiastic contributor to the mantra...just come forward (Bill), just admit it, just just just, etc...she willingly spewed the talking points.

I say proceed with caution.

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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:06 AM
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5. I Heard That
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 11:06 AM by Dinger
They asked for proof, and asked what AIPAC was (like they didn't know). It was weird. Sounded like a Skull & Bones type thing.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 01:08 PM
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7. AIPAC should be registered as a foreign agent. n/t
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