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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 02:46 PM
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Pat Oliphant CRUCIFIES WaPo>>>>>
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 02:55 PM by Jacobin


heh heh heh....not that it'll get them off their lazy, Bush-loving asses, but a nice jab nonetheless.

:woohoo:

(edited to get the right Oliphant)
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jeanarrett Donating Member (813 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 02:48 PM
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1. Cute. And he's about to slip on a banana peel and step
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 02:48 PM by jeanarrett
into an open manhole!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 02:50 PM
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5. Open manhole?
I don't see no picture of Jeff Gannon in that drawring.
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jeanarrett Donating Member (813 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:11 PM
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20. Wow, I fell right into that one, didn't I? n/t
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:16 PM
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21. You mean
you weren't playing the straightman?

Which reminds me, when Jeff and George get togetha' which one's on top?
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:22 PM
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37. Funny - but that they have pretty much succeeded in burying that
huge scandal. I haven't seen much on Gannongate lately in the media, have you? It's their laugh if we let them sweep it all under the rug. :(
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 02:19 AM
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41. It's why I mention it every chance I get.
There are about a dozen stories the press hasn't bothered to cover.

We can at least keep all of them alive online.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 09:03 AM
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44. So true - WE have to keep them alive.
:toast:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 03:11 PM
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16. right, the whore press really doesn't see what's coming
even though their subscription/viewership numbers continue to drop.

Pretty soon, they'll be sitting around, scratching their corporate asses and wondering "Wha hoppen?" I'm sure their solution will be to turn completely to tabloid crap and paparazzi photos.

Right now, the net is filling the news vacuum they left. I suppose when the junta shuts down most of the net (except for the consumer part), we'll all start using our printers to churn out handbills and the modern equivalents of broadsides. It's what we did in the 60s. We may have to do it again.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:28 PM
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23. Dude looks like a really
fat..W.C. Fields.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:29 PM
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38. He does.
Exactly like a puffed up W.C. Fields.

My favorite W.C. Fields story:

He's lying in the hospital bed, dying and a friend comes in and finds him reading the bible. Friend says, what are you doing reading the bible? You've never read the bible.

W.C. to friend: "Looking for a loophole...."
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 10:35 PM
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45. :)
A guy asks Fields how he likes children..Fields answered "parboiled".:D

At one point in my life I was seriously into W.C. Fields..I thought he was the funniest thing on the Planet.

http://www.louisville.edu/~kprayb01/WCQuote.html#A1



I still say godfrey daniels at times when I'm not really swearing.

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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 02:48 PM
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2. Woodward honored a commitment to their source
they should be congratulated for that, not ridiculed.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 02:52 PM
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9. that was a long time ago.
Woodward is now a lazy wad himself.

It's a shame, really.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 03:13 PM
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17. the commitment was until he was dead
good job by Woodward honoring that. Maybe he's lazy now, but he's down more in his life than most of us ever will. He should be honored for that.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 03:20 PM
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18. I remember him when he was a good journalist
He's bought into the PNAC agenda and has ignored crimes of the Bush family that make Nixon's little break-in look like a water balloon fight at a Baptist Sunday picnic.

WaPo is a huge part of the problem, not a part of any solution. They did, however, do a GREAT job of non-stop IN DEPTH reporting of the Great Blow Job. :eyes:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:31 PM
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24. Oh yeah, that
was a blow by blow excellent job on the blow job.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 03:25 PM
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19. You're right. Woodward did keep his word.
Commendable.

It's the crushed promise of both Woodward and The Washington Post that is the dreadful thing here.

Many people felt things in the Bush administration were fairly hunky-dory because they trusted Woodward. He had daily access and wrote about the goings on in the WH.

Now, maybe Woodward was used by the Bush folks, but I don't hear him saying that.

I think it's a travesty that Woodward has betrayed the trust of so many of us.

He still has time to regain the honor once fully his due.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 05:01 PM
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33. Woodward isn't being ridiculed
the Washington Post got scooped by the Atlantic MONTHLY on this -- they're the ones who broke this story. It should logically have been the WP that got the story. They didn't.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 05:31 PM
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35. It was Vanity Fair
I would think WP knew who Deep Throat was...
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 02:49 PM
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3. He's so terrific
And was a guest during the last hour of Franken's show today.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:31 PM
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25. Did he have a juicy
tidbits to say?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:36 PM
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28. woops
i was thinking tom o. not this political cartoonist.

oliphant mostly talked about the watergate days since he was a journalist back then, too. you're probably up to speed on anything he had to say. i just enjoy him whenever he's on radio or tv.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:40 PM
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29. Thanks, I'm not up too
speed on what T Oliphant had to say..I like to hear different people's take on it..since the reichwingers are all saying Felt was Wrong.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:16 PM
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36. Oh, sorry, Zidzi
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 08:18 PM by eleny
The best way to get his skinny is to check out the archive for Franken's program of today. T.O. was the guest for practically the entire last hour, so you don't have to go digging.

One thing he did suggest was what he considers the very best book on Watergate. It's titled Wars Of Watergate. He said it's the bible of books on the subject. Hope that helps!

Edited for syntax.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 10:38 PM
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46. Thanks..eleny.
I'll have to check that out.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 02:49 PM
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4. Not THOMAS Oliphant, PAT
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 02:54 PM by paineinthearse
Tom is the Boston Globe's Washington bureau chief, and has not written a column since March, recovering from a brain aneurysm.

The subject line gave me hope that Tom was writing again.

But thanks for the cartoon anyway!
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 02:51 PM
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6. oops.
any relation?
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 02:51 PM
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7. Pat Oliphant is the cartoonist
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 02:52 PM by Rick Myers
I have a drawing of Daddy Bush with a purse he did for me years ago.
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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 02:51 PM
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8. Wrong Oliphant.
Pat Oliphant is the cartoonist.

Tom Oliphant is the Boston Globe writer and Al Franken guest.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:32 PM
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26. Oh, okay..
thanks.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 02:54 PM
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10. Jacobin, do you know that you can still edit
your post? Headline, too.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 02:56 PM
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11. thank you
:blush:
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 02:58 PM
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12. Stupid Cartoon...
The only way the Post could have not been "scooped" would have been to break their promise to Felt. A dishonorable act. In fact they were not scooped, as that implies Vanity Fair found information the Post had not. Obviously that is not the case.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 03:00 PM
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13. Right punishment, wrong crime
They clearly are fat, arrogant, lazy bushbots, so I applaud the insult as clearly due them, even if for the wrong crime.

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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 10:43 PM
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47. That's my feeling, too.
With no Mary McGrory and no Herblock, plus the Post's dozen years of pissy sniping at Clinton, they're looking more and more like a smug corporate entity that cares more about whether Sally Quinn's dinner party is ruined than whether national security is put at risk or people toil in sweatshops. They still have some staff with a moral compass, and of course I think Tom Toles gets it right, but the Post definitely is on the wrong path in general. We might as well have one honest paper in town, what with that candy-colored abomination from Moon in the other newspaper dispenser.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 03:06 PM
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14. But Felt wanted to break silence.
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 03:12 PM by Kurovski
Maybe Felt wouldn't trust them with the story, even though that's the paper which broke his original story? It's interesting and I wonder why it came about this way.

I think the point is that with all the scandals around, the WP is not working all that hard these days.

They sometimes do OK, but they were once known for doing a great deal better.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:34 PM
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27. Yes and the cartoon resonates
all too well.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:41 PM
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30. Well...
it only needs one more vote for greatest, zidzi...:-)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 05:19 PM
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34. Gotcha!
:)
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:45 PM
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40. Felt's KIDS wanted to break silence -
- and we'll never know what Felt wanted. Felt is 91 and had a stroke several years ago. His brain is pretty much mush.

The WP and Woodward were right not to divulge his name and to not initially break silence because they have no way of knowing if Felt approved of the revelation. Felt is not competent given his medical situation.

As Felt didn't divulge the details of the story to his family, we can only hope there is a hidden transcript or diary lurking somewhere to fill in the gaps. Until then, this is still Woodward's story.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 02:20 AM
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42. Thank you for clearing that up.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 03:08 PM
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15. I love it!
Kicked and nominated

:kick:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:27 PM
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22. That's funny! I didn't even
know who scooped it..now I know it was Vanity Fair..how freakin' Ironic!
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:45 PM
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31. tom oliphant



He had a brain aneurysm? I thought I saw him on TV fairly recently.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 05:00 PM
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32. I started the confusion in the beginning
My original post said "Tom Oliphant", but I was kindly corrected by several alert DUers and then edited the title to fix it.

Tom is a great journalist and I hope he recovers from his illness. Love his columns.

Don't know if he's related to Pat Oliphant the cartoonist, or not.
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:13 PM
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39. here's "The Hill News" . . . on Tom Oliphant

Tom Oliphant appearing on PBS Jim Lehrer's NewsHour


.
"Surgery for the Globe’s Tom Oliphant

"Tom Oliphant, Washington-based columnist for the Boston Globe and a regular on The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, underwent surgery last week after suffering a brain aneurysm.

"A source said that when Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.), a longtime friend of Oliphant, heard the news, he called his health policy staff in and told them to find the best medical care they could for him. Fortunately, a Kennedy spokeswoman said, 'it turns out that (Oliphant) had it' all along. He was checked in at the well-regarded Inova Hospital in Fairfax.

"Oliphant, who is married to CBS News’s Susan Spencer, is said to be doing well."

http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/UndertheDome/032305.html (scroll to bottom of webpage)

____________________________________________________________________



Get well soon, Tom!!



.

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GOPFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 06:57 AM
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43. GREAT cartoon!
I have lived in Washington for 30 years and used to love the Post. Then in the 90s they got fat and lazy and stupid, but in the last year or so I've seen some glimmers of the old Post. Overall, it's still the one paper most likely to slam this administration. In fact it seems to be the paper most cited here in DU.
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