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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 05:49 PM
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CSPAN = Republican Reps speaking against the war NOW.
Ron Paul - R-TX and now Rep John Duncan R-Tenn
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 05:52 PM
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1. Duncan said
It appears that we are empire building!
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 05:52 PM
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2. "appears"?
HA! Well. It walks like a duck and talks like a duck...
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 05:53 PM
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3. NO shit?
well, well, well.

The polls have spoken, I guess.

I better turn it on!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 05:55 PM
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4. I distinctly remember reading
on DU this past weekend that repugs would start to peel themselves away from the blivet real soon, possibly due to the DSM and the coverage it will hopefully get real soon! Appears that's happening, eh? :toast:
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 06:00 PM
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5. abandon ship
every repug for himself, numbers against the war over 60%, abandon ship!
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 06:02 PM
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6. I am listening to them..... did they vote for the war? I am happy
to hear the rehtoric.....it needs to get louder and stronger..
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Fifth of Five Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 07:58 PM
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14. Duncan voted against the war resolution. n/m
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 07:04 PM
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12. That's how it is with them
I've noticed it. Only a few of them stick together but then when the shit hits the fan for one bye bye! I do think all these people are brave for speaking out with Karl Rove around. He must be shitting himself. :D
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 06:03 PM
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7. Duncan spoke eloquently
Seems to be running--politely---away from the administration.

We definitely need the transcript of his remarks.




wow,,,,then they quickly adjourned. I wonder what that was about???
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 06:25 PM
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8. Ron Paul was memorizing. Where is the text of his speech.
Durban kicked some butt, too.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 06:49 PM
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9. What Ron Paul said in 2002
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/10/11/194543.shtmlRepublicans Who Voted Against Iraq Resolution Tell Why
Dave Eberhart, NewsMax.com
Saturday, Oct. 12, 2002
In the U.S. House of Representatives six Republicans broke ranks and voted nay on the Iraq resolution. They were: Ron Paul of Texas, James A. Leach of Iowa, John N. Hostettler of Indiana, Constance A. Morella of Maryland, Amo Houghton of New York, and John J. Duncan of Tennessee.
Here are some of their reasons:


Rep. Ron Paul: "An important aspect of the philosophy and the policy we are endorsing here is the pre-emption doctrine. This should not be passed off lightly. It has been done to some degree in the past, but never been put into law that we will pre-emptively strike another nation that has not attacked us. No matter what the arguments may be, this policy is new; and it will have ramifications for our future, and it will have ramifications for the future of the world because other countries will adopt this same philosophy …
"For more than a thousand years there has been a doctrine and Christian definition of what a just war is all about. I think this effort and this plan to go to war comes up short of that doctrine. First, it says that there has to be an act of aggression; and there has not been an act of aggression against the United States. We are 6,000 miles from their shores …

"My argument is when we go to war through the back door, we are more likely to have the wars last longer and not have resolution of the wars, such as we had in Korea and Vietnam. We ought to consider this very seriously …

"Also it is said we are wrong about the act of aggression; there has been an act of aggression against us because Saddam Hussein has shot at our airplanes. The fact that he has missed every single airplane for 12 years, and tens of thousands of sorties have been flown, indicates the strength of our enemy, an impoverished, Third World nation that does not have an air force, anti-aircraft weapons, or a navy …

"There is a need for us to assume responsibility for the declaration of war, and also to prepare the American people for the taxes that will be raised and the possibility of a military draft which may well come.”





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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 07:01 PM
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10. He is a Republican of my parent's generation..
you know, one of the "real" ones.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 07:53 PM
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13. I agree with him on some issues, but not others.
This is one I can get behind. Tell the truth and let the chips fall.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 07:03 PM
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11. I've seen Ron Paul before
Edited on Tue Jun-14-05 07:03 PM by FreedomAngel82
He's not your typical republican. In Alex Jones "9/11: Rise of Martial Law" film he interviews Mr. Paul and Mr. Paul calls the Bush gang neocons. ;) He and Mr. Duncan also voted AGAINST the Real ID act and he and another republican congressman from North Carolina were the only three in the republican party to do so. Mr. Paul isn't a bad guy just your typical republican. I don't know much about Mr. Duncan since he isn't my rep.
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radar Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 08:34 PM
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15. BARTCOP wrote something today...
Touching on the Repubs being the ones "with balls."

" Just like Vietnam, the tide is starting to turn. The question is, how many thousands of soldiers
will we lose because the always-faithfull GOP will stand with Bush while the scared-to-death
Democrats are afraid to speak.

You've heard it here a hundred times, we have to depend on the GOP to change this country
because the Democrats can't summon the courage.
As time drags on, as hundreds more soldiers
are shipped home in body bags, the GOP will increasingly call for an end to Bush's nightmare."


BartCop.com Volume 1564 - Sacless, Tuesday June 14,2005
http://www.bartcop.com/
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