Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Tom, Denny and Roy demand that Nancy Pelosi apologize

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 11:18 AM
Original message
Tom, Denny and Roy demand that Nancy Pelosi apologize
Last week, Pelosi spoke about her amendment that would demand some accoutability from the bushies...

"From the start, I've thought this war was a grotesque mistake,'' said Pelosi, who voted against the autumn 2002 resolution authorizing Bush to launch military operations against Saddam Hussein's regime. "The question now is about the execution of the war. It's hard for anyone to argue that the war meets the standard of a strategy for success.''

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/06/15/MNGCJD8J6P1.DTL

DeLay Calls on Pelosi to Apologize for Comments; Democrat Leader Calls Iraq Liberation 'Grotesque Mistake'
..."Saying Operation Iraqi Freedom has been 'without success' and calling the liberation of 25 million Iraqis a 'grotesque mistake' exposes once again the weak and indecisive foreign policy of the Democrats' past."

He said, while counting money that's connected to slave labor.

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=49095

Hastert Rebukes Rhetoric by Nancy Pelosi on Iraq War
..."Leader Pelosi calls the war in Iraq a mistake, but I would like her to tell that to the Iraqi women who voted for the first time or the young activists who for years lived in fear of speaking out against Saddam Hussein's brutal dictatorship. Because of our actions, women are no longer victimized by Saddam Hussein.
"The sacrifice of our men and women in uniform allowed for free and fair elections, which allowed all political parties and all ethnic and religious groups to participate. How is that a mistake?

I'd like Denny to explain to the bereaved of 100,000 Iraqis how it isn't

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=49087

Blunt Challenges Pelosi's Rhetoric
"Leader Pelosi's comments during debate on the bill to fund America's military operations in wartime stand in stark contrast to the bravery of the millions of Iraqis who voted in democratic elections for the first time, and the thousands of coalition troops who have given their lives to defend freedom."

"thousands" of coalition troops? does Blunt have some information he'd care to share with us?

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=49097

This concerted outrage is one big phoney show. Last September, she said the SAME thing:

snip>
“We would be much safer today if President Bush had kept his focus on al-Qaida, rather than diverting crucial resources from the war on terror in Afghanistan to a war of choice in Iraq,” she said, echoing recent comments by Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry.

“This war has been a grotesque mistake that has diminished our reputation in the world and has not made America safer,” she said.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6095868


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 11:24 AM
Response to Original message
1. "women are no longer victimized by Saddam Hussein"
Are these guys for real?

As I understand it, women in Hussein's Iraq had more rights and freedoms than virtually anywhere else in the Middle East.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:39 PM
Response to Reply #1
14. Well, that's not the point.
Yes, women enjoyed certain freedoms in the Iraq of recent years, but no one's going to tell me Saddam Hussein deserves defending.

The point is that the Bush administration is mendacious and incompetent and secretive to a degree that would make Nixon blush. They rushed into war, they did a bad job of it, and thousands of innocent people are paying the price for it.

And they've increased the number of enemies the U.S. has, not reduced it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 11:26 AM
Response to Original message
2. Attack the messengers of truth...
especially if they are leaders of the Democratic Party.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 11:31 AM
Response to Original message
3. They are behaving like caged animals...clawing their way out---
ANY WAY THAT THEY CAN! How pathetic!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 11:31 AM
Response to Original message
4. lets see which DLC whores join the pack
Hang tough there Nancy. 60% of Americans agree with you. Time for the opposition party to speak out and speak the truth. America is waiting.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 11:42 AM
Response to Reply #4
7. the DLC whores?
Gosh - I don't see anything about the DLC here! Seems like it's Republicans saying nasty things...

Why don't you direct your gratuitous insults at the Republicans?

Why don't you work toward some party unity instead of jumping on every opportunity to trash fellow Democrats?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 11:47 AM
Response to Reply #7
8. Hey! I insult Republicans freely and directly
But I hope that no Democrats feel like they have to join the Republican crybabies in their delusional fight against reality, as so often happens. It seems that every time there's a forthright statement from a Democrat (Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Dick Durbin), there's at least one Democrat who feels like he or she has to denounce what was said, no matter how on target or right it was.

Let the Republicans fight their own losing battles.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:04 PM
Response to Reply #8
12. the point is -
there are many posters here at DU who constantly find the need to pre-emptively denounce those Democrats before anything is said.

I don't find that kind of Dem bashing very productive.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:14 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. Yeah, I'm kidding (kind of)
With my handle, that particular word just jumps off the screen at me. But it will be interesting to see in the next 24-48 hours if any Democrats feel compelled to upbraid Pelosi for her "divisive" comments. It's not like it hasn't happened before, and perhaps it will happen less often if the perpetrators are tipped off ahead of time that it's something that we rank-and-filers notice.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 01:27 PM
Response to Reply #13
17. That's my point.
We need to start providing discipline from the rank and file 'cause there sure as heck isn't any from our 'leaders'.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wtbymark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 11:53 AM
Response to Reply #7
11. Any Democrat that panders to K street is a whore
sooner or later we will identify them, run campaigns against them, refuse to fund them, then they can go join the pukes, where they belong. I would like to put every Democratic rep and senator on notice; if you ignore your constituants interests in favor of the corperatists - ur gone!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 01:25 PM
Response to Reply #7
16. yes the DLC whores
here is the pattern:

1) the VRWC attack machine issues its talking points
2) hate radio kicks in on queue within 24 hours
3) MSM follows suit with non-critical articles reporting the talking points
4) DLC whores startup with the 'perhaps it was over the top' or 'x doesn't speak for me' or 'x ought to apologize for that remark'.

For example Durbin's recent remarks. For example Dean on the theocracy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 11:35 AM
Response to Original message
5. She repeated it later that day
60% of the American people - so that includes quite a few who were mislead into going along with this war - think the war is a mistake. So, "mistake" is appropriate. That leaves describing the mistake as "grotesque," and the short definition of that is "characterized by distortions."

So Pelosi should apologize for... what???

Innocent people have been killed, lives destroyed, turned upsidedown... for a war we were essentially told was necessary to prevent a nuclear attack on an American city. A grotesque mistake is one of the milder things you could call this.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #5
6. I think "grotesque mistake" is mild....
She could have called them lying murderers.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:51 PM
Response to Reply #6
15. This "demanding apologies" from the VRWC
Edited on Tue Jun-21-05 12:52 PM by Karenina
is getting old. PARTICULARLY in light of RW Stinkmaul Rush's RACIST referral to "mongrels." Man-o-man how dat Ami Sprache done got SO.FUCKED.UP. :freak::shrug::freak:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #15
20. Their best line isn't to demand an apology
Their best line to is admit that the Bushies duped them, apologize to the American people for being so gullible, and demand an apology from the regime.

Ms. Pelosi is in effect saying exactly that. Why can't they?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 01:56 PM
Response to Reply #20
21. Good point!
:toast:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 11:48 AM
Response to Original message
9. World still
Waiting for Bush to be punish for illegal invasion of Iraq x(
War on Iraq illegal
All Iraqies killed are crime again Humanity x(
We wait, you cant run
We wait, for American people to hand you over x(
We not go away,
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 11:51 AM
Response to Original message
10. The rhetoric is already stale, guys. Can it.
Colonial occupation is not liberation. The Iraqi people know that; that is why it has been a mistake.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 01:30 PM
Response to Original message
18. The warmongers are deeply offended by words of truth, but pools of blood,
... especially the blood of innocent women and children, don't seem to bother them.

Fucking hypocrites!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 01:31 PM
Response to Original message
19. Is there a Call To Arms beeper for Republicans?
Geez! Pelosi, Durbin, Reid, Dean, etc. speak the truth and speak their minds and you would think we've just been invaded by Communists!

Yet, Republican after Republican stand on the floor, stick their mugs in front of TV cameras, and chat it up with reporters spouting a hateful rhetoric like I've never seen...and the crickets chirping is deafening.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed May 01st 2024, 08:17 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC