AP: Roll-Call Vote on Bolton

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/21/international/21roll_call.html

http://tinyurl.com/akzqa


DEMOCRATS NOT VOTING

Feingold, Wis.; Johnson, S.D.; Kerry, Mass.; Kohl, Wis.; Levin, Mich.


DEMOCRATS YES

Landrieu, La.; Nelson, Neb.; Pryor, Ark.


DEMOCRATS NO

Akaka, Hawaii; Baucus, Mont.; Bayh, Ind.; Biden, Del.; Bingaman, N.M.;
Boxer, Calif.; Byrd, W.Va.; Cantwell, Wash.; Carper, Del.; Clinton, N.Y.;
Conrad, N.D.; Corzine, N.J.; Dayton, Minn.; Dodd, Conn.; Dorgan, N.D.;
Durbin, Ill.; Feinstein, Calif.; Harkin, Iowa; Inouye, Hawaii; Kennedy,
Mass.; Lautenberg, N.J.; Leahy, Vt.; Lieberman, Conn.; Lincoln, Ark.;
Mikulski, Md.; Murray, Wash.; Nelson, Fla.; Obama, Ill.; Reed, R.I.; Reid,
Nev.; Rockefeller, W.Va.; Salazar, Colo.; Sarbanes, Md.; Schumer, N.Y.;
Stabenow, Mich.; Wyden, Ore.



REPUBLICANS NO

Voinovich, Ohio


REPUBLICANS NOT VOTING

Burns, Mont.; Coleman, Minn.; Thune, S.D.



REPUBLICANS YES

Alexander, Tenn.; Allard, Colo.; Allen, Va.; Bennett, Utah; Bond, Mo.;
Brownback, Kan.; Bunning, Ky.; Burr, N.C.; Chafee, R.I.; Chambliss, Ga.;
Coburn, Okla.; Cochran, Miss.; Collins, Me.; Cornyn, Tex.; Craig, Idaho;
Crapo, Idaho; DeMint, S.C.; DeWine, Ohio; Dole, N.C.; Domenici, N.M.;
Ensign, Nev.; Enzi, Wyo.; Frist, Tenn.; Graham, S.C.; Grassley, Iowa; Gregg,
N.H.; Hagel, Neb.; Hatch, Utah; Hutchison, Tex.; Inhofe, Okla.; Isakson,
Ga.; Kyl, Ariz.; Lott, Miss.; Lugar, Ind.; Martinez, Fla.; Mc- Cain, Ariz.;
McConnell, Ky.; Murkowski, Ark.; Roberts, Kan.; Santorum, Pa.; Sessions,
Ala.; Shelby, Ala.; Smith, Ore.; Snowe, Me.; Specter, Pa.; Stevens, Alaska;
Sununu, N.H.; Talent, Mo.; Thomas, Wyo.; Vitter, La.; Warner, Va.


INDEPENDENT NO

Jeffords, Vt.


All the emphasis is mine. I thought the votes I emphasized were important for a number of reasons. You can decide if they're important to you.

TC

Is he really going to vote no unless his base isn't closed.. or is he just going to be conviently unavailable each time the vote comes up?

Thanks for posting the list TC! :headbang:

for the past few days as the BRAC hearing regarding Ellsworth AFB was today.

http://www.keloland.com/NewsDetail2817.cfm?Id=0,40506

I wonder if that was him making good on his threat.

For Cloture to win, the Republicans need 60 yays - it doesn't matter how many nos. The NYT mentioned that all the Democrats who were not voting were nos last time - so their absence means nothing.

This vote was on Monday when the Senate is often not even in session. I would bet they might have had comittments in their states or elsewhere. As putting in their nos wouldn't make a difference they didn't return.

:rofl:

Here's what they have: "Murkowski, Ark."

I have letters that go up to the 49th state because people don't get the postal code right.

I'm very disappointed in Mark Pryor, and plan to give him a piece of my mind about his stupid Yes vote.

I knew a guy (originally from Arkansas) who taught school in a tiny little community near the ALCAN (Alaska/Canada) border called "Tok" (ryhmes with joke) -- seriously, check your atlas.

Anyway.. I lived in that tiny town for only a short time, but he had lived there for at least 25 years. :crazy:

One day -- right after work, we ran into each other at a rowdy little Alaskana "klondike style" lodge (bar).

The college he graduated from had created a super fancy hardbound "25th Anniversary" book with glossy photos and a description of where each graduate had wound up at. It came out shortly after a 25th reunion they had which he wasn't able to attend for some reason or another.

So he had just picked up his copy of the book at the post office and ran over to the lodge to open it. I've never seen anyone so giddy and excited about opening a package in my life! :crazy:

He said that FINALLY --- FINALLY --- AFTER 25 LONG YEARS --- FINALLY everyone would know that he had been in rural Alaska teaching school for the past 25 years.

It drove everyone nuts waiting for him to open it because he had to have everything just right first. Had to find a big enough table for everyone to "gather round", had to have his cold beer on tap in front of him ready to sip, and he had to wait until the dart game was over so no one would miss his unveiling. (As you can tell- This guy did NOT have a life! ;) )

When he FINALLY opened it and found the page with his photo and bio, you should have heard the scream!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

"NO!!! NOOOOO!! THIS CAN'T BE!! I've waited 25 years for this!!!"

The book showed a great big photo of him and the year he graduated in. And underneath it read something like ..." for the past 25 years, he has called Tok, Arkansas his home where he teaches yada, yada, yada..."

I felt sorry for him.. but at the same time.. It was pretty damned funny! :rofl:

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Ok.. Sorry for the interruption. ayeshahaqqiqa's comment reminded me of that guy. Back to your regularly scheduled programming. :7

If they'd needed Feingold, Johnson, Kerry, Kohl, or Levin, they'd have been there.

protecting V I A B I L I T Y . . .

They don't want that vote on their records come '08.

TC

it comes to Kerry and Feingold since they were on the Foreign Relations Committee.

It means nothing.

you don't even know whether they were in Washington DC at the time, do you? Yet you are ready to assume the basest and most despicable motive.

Besides, the idea that they don't want to be on the record as being against Bolton is nonsensical... you are aware that this is the second cloture vote on Bolton aren't you? link to first - Feingold, Kerry, Kohl and Levin all voted NO - they already do have the vote on their record :eyes:

They were busy - They are absent today.

Kerry is on record a dozen times opposing Bolton. He even sponsored ads on this subject.

AS for Jeffords, he is not running in 06.

Now you can believe what you want, but the record will show the opposite.

"I thought the votes I emphasized were important for a number of reasons. You can decide if they're important to you."

Different people will look at that and see what it is they see. I have my own opinion about this for a number of reasons, and will not change my opinion simply because you think I'm wrong.

I have just been through 4 years of the junior senator from my state not showing up for votes to cover his ass for the sake of viability. One of those times, it actually affected me and my family very adversely, and I cannot excuse it. I'm sorry of that offends you, but he was voted in to be MA's senator, not to run for another office. His votes matter. And one vote that he didn't even bother to show up for (yes, he was in Washington at the time) cost me dearly.

I will not elaborate. But, I also will not cede an inch just because you think I'm wrong. Walk a mile in my shoes, and we'll talk.

TC

is that this vote gives the hate Kerry krew a chance to dump on JK.

knowledge of Senate procedure is not required to join this club.

a lot.

'Nuff said.

TC

Kerry grilled Bolton and proved that he lied to the committee, and he and others in the committee fought as hard as they could against this guy. Between them, they convinced Voinivich that he was not good, preventing Bolton from getting approval from the SFRC. Kerry made a strong speech arguing that voting without the information means congress isn't doing there job. Kerry ran ads in Delaware - partially contributing to the higher public awareness on Bolton. He has voted no on colture.

Yesterday, the Republicans didn't have 60 votes - they lost. (In fact the only way the missing Democrats votes could have had an impact is if they all lost their minds and decided to vote YES)

I have no idea where Kerry is: Maybe he's doing something with base closings as suggested, maybe he's in England looking into the DSM personally, maybe he was sick or had some other personal reason not to be there. He's your Senator, email him asking where he is.

This was not my point. I just wanted to give my POV on this question.

However, this does not change the way a cloture vote works. And while you may be right for the vote you are speaking about (I do not know the exact circumstances), on this one, if Kerry did not want to be on record against Bolton, it is a little bit too late.

the nos don't matter. Did you read either Feingold's or Kerry's committtee comments and grilling of Bolton. They also made great floor speeches on why he should not be confirmed.

How could not voting on this help them? Both of them have voted very progressively on everything this year.