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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 07:37 PM
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"REPUBLICANS for ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION" - is this a joke?
I received in my mail a letter/brochure/junk mail from REP, Republicans for Environmental Protection. They are some group of Republicans that are "concerned" about the Republican Party's "current direction" on environmental issues. But they support president Bush. Here is their website: http://www.repamerica.org/

Is this a joke??? There are letters on their website congratulating George Bush and gushing about what a great president he is. I'm serious, is this a joke? Have any of you heard of them? God Help this country.:wtf:
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 07:39 PM
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1. It's a new movement.
It's called "greenwashing."

Make all the right environmentalist-sounding noises with the help of PR firms, then quietly go on about business as usual.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 07:40 PM
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2. I actually know a member of that group
But she hates *. She lives in Maine, where their Repugs (Snowe and Collins) are somewhat saner than most of the GOP. And she didn't vote for * in either 2000 or 2004.
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samdogmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 07:49 PM
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7. Well then get out of the party!
Come on Republican and Environmentalist can't be used in the same sentence EVER!
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 07:43 PM
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3. It's just another ILLUSION they're trying to create. n/t
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WhoWantsToBeOccupied Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 07:43 PM
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4. I saw a car with two bumper stickers last weekend
One was an environmental sticker. The other: a Bush-Cheney '04 sticker.

Incredulous, I stared for a minute.

Do these people have any CLUE what Bush-Cheney stand for?
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 07:43 PM
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5. Actually, we used one of their brochures
when some of the few conservatives in my church complained that the environment was "a partisan issue."

When the environmental committee was scheduled to set up an exhibit at coffee hour, we prominently displayed a brochure from Republicans for Environmental Protection as a way of defusing accusations of political bias.

What could the conservatives say then? :-)

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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 07:47 PM
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6. Now THAT'S an oxymoron.
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 07:53 PM
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8. That's like screwing for virginity.
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 07:54 PM
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9. Hunters. Environmentalism and tun control go hand and hand.
Edited on Tue Jun-21-05 07:55 PM by Massacure
I don't see how they can support Bush though.
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ucmike Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 08:00 PM
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10. sounds like "sportsmen for bush"
i've seen their stickers around. makes me shake my head. i usually assume it means "gun fanatics for bush"
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 08:01 PM
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11. They are the "Guns & Jesus" kooks
:silly:
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montana500 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 09:00 PM
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12. no joke. REP is a great group.
Edited on Tue Jun-21-05 09:02 PM by montana500
they mean well. They have bashed almost every single Bush environmental move. They are liberitarian minded people who also want tough environmental regulations , and to preserve our best habitat.

They constantly trash Bush and republicans in congress.

They are the good guys.
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AUYellowDog Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 09:04 PM
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13. It's like log cabin republicans
they confuse me. Alot of the NRA people are pro-environment though. They like clean hunting lands, which I understand. I like my guns and my environment. Granted, I don't like them as much as the NRA, and no assault weapons (just handguns and rifles).

Brandon
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montana500 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 01:09 AM
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14. the nra.....
is actually mostly anti-conservation.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 01:16 AM
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15. Nixon created the EPA
So there still might be some small endangered sect of Republicans that give a damn about the environment.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 01:25 AM
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16. Looks legit and potentially a source of allies
From their letter to * on their site (one I wouldn't be reticent to sign):

To meet our energy and environmental challenges, we need an energy plan which will:

* Raise fuel economy standards for cars and SUV's to 40 miles per gallon over the next decade - thereby saving more than 15 times the estimated yield of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, saving fuel America must now import and saving drivers billions of dollars at the pump;

* Achieve energy efficiency for our homes, offices and factories, through investment in readily available technologies, stimulated by tax credits and national standards, including upgraded appliance efficiency standards;

* Realize the enormous potential for clean, renewable energy such as solar, wind and fuel cell power, and encourage a boom in its production through tax incentives paid for by redirecting fossil fuel subsidies. (The Department of Energy's 2000 study, "Scenarios for a Clean Energy Future," states that energy efficiency and renewable power can spare us the need to build over 60 percent of the 1300 new power plants that the Administration claims are needed over the next 20 years);

* Take global climate change seriously by capping carbon dioxide emissions (as pledged in the presidential campaign) and increase the use of natural gas as the "bridge" to a clean energy future; and

* Increase the availability of natural gas (including a new pipeline from Prudhoe Bay, built along existing corridors), with increased exploration and development on lands already open to these activities, extracting more oil and gas from existing fields using available new technology and giving priority to the least environmentally-sensitive areas.

In sum, a plan to meet America's energy needs should emphasize improving energy efficiency, increasing fuel economy, investing in renewable energy, and using natural gas as a bridge to a clean energy future - at the same time as we work for a stable climate and clean air and protect the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and America's other wild places.

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Theodore Roosevelt IV, Great-grandson of President Theodore Roosevelt
Susan Eisenhower, Granddaughter of President Dwight D. Eisenhower
The Honorable Sherwood Boehlert, Member of Congress from New York State
The Honorable David Cargo, former Governor of New Mexico
The Honorable William Milliken, former Governor of Michigan
The Honorable Robert Stafford, former U. S. Senator from Vermont
The Honorable Charles Mathias, former U. S. Senator from Maryland
The Honorable Lowell Thomas, Jr, former Lt. Governor of Alaska
The Honorable Alvin Adams, former U.S. Ambassador, Honolulu, Hawaii
The Honorable Arthur Ravenel, South Carolina State Senator and former U. S. Congressman
The Honorable Don M. Carlson, Washington State Senator
The Honorable Richard Russman, former New Hampshire State Senator
The Honorable Kelly Barlean, Washington State Representative
The Honorable Ken Bernhard, Connecticut State Representative
The Honorable Carolyn Krause, Illinois State Representative
The Honorable Mindy Jaffe, Hawaii State Representative
The Honorable Pauline Gubbels, New Mexico State Representative
The Honorable Fred Jarrett, Washington State Representative
The Honorable Glenn Anderson, Washington State Representative
The Honorable Charles T. McIlhinney, Jr., Pennsylvania State Representative
The Honorable Julie Belaga, former Connecticut State Representative, Westport, Connecticut
The Honorable Byng Hunt, Chairman of the Mono County Board of Supervisors, Mammoth Lakes, California
The Honorable Pam Slater, San Diego County Supervisor, California
The Honorable Sandy Hume, Treasurer of Boulder County, Colorado; former state representative and county supervisor
The Honorable Jerome Full, Councilman, Palm Coast City, Florida
The Honorable Robert Maddox, former Connecticut State Representative, now Director of Marketing and Communications for Connecticut Energy Co-op, Bethlehem, Connecticut
The Honorable Sherwood Bliss, Selectman of Weston, Connecticut
The Honorable Nancy Ketchum, Selectman of Redding, Connecticut
The Honorable James Cotton, Selectman of Redding, Connecticut
The Honorable Hess Yntema, City Councilman of Albuquerque, New Mexico
The Honorable Pamela Smith, Councilwoman-at-Large of Lakewood, Ohio
The Honorable Terence Wall, Township Committeeman, Holmdel, New Jersey
The Honorable Margaret M. Lasky, former Mayor of Holmdel, New Jersey
The Honorable Russell E. Dronne, Township Committeeman, Holmdel, New Jersey
The Honorable Bob Mount, Constable of Auburn, Alabama
The Honorable Ruth Stanbridge, County Commissioner, Vero Beach, FL
The Honorable Sandy Cole, Lake County Commissioner, Grayslake, Illinois
The Honorable Michael Fitzpatrick, Bucks County Commissioner, Levittown, Pennsylvania
The Honorable Joe DeLuca, Chaffee County Commissioner, Salida, Colorado
The Honorable Ted Van Hessen, Supervisor, South Brunswick Township, New Jersey
The Honorable Susan McGillicuddy, Township Supervisor, Okemos, Michigan
The Honorable Martha Marks, President of REP America; Lake County Commissioner, Riverwoods, Illinois
The Honorable Gerald Barber, Chairman, REP Environmental Educational Foundation; Tax Assessor of Madison County, Mississippi
The Honorable Russell Train, EPA Administrator under Presidents Nixon and Ford and Chairman Emeritus of the World Wildlife Fund
The Honorable Bruce Smart, former Undersecretary of Commerce, Upperville, Virginia
The Honorable Peter Maggiore, Environmental Secretary of New Mexico
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:22 AM
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17. Life in America, the old pendulum swings! Dems are Federalist now!!
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