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cmutt Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:45 AM
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Flag desecration: why now?

Perhaps I'm reading into things too far. Why is the flag desecration issue being trotted back out now? If you held your nose and browsed your way through the disgusting, RW radio puppets yesterday (even the local ones here in Mpls), you heard the same topic: flag desecration. Why the abrupt re-arrival of this issue?

I think the timing and arrival of this one is pure Rovian in nature:
1. GWB's social security initiative is dying-on-the-vine
2. War support is lagging
3. The British memos are actually getting some press
4. GWB is spiraling downward in the polls.

If you can through this one out again, you can rally your base around a patriotic topic. You can paint those voting against the amendment as "flag-hating Democrat's" (yes, you can almost hear the rhetoric now, can't you?) going into the 2006 mid-terms. Perhaps the biggest reason why I think Rove has orchestrated this that give the repukes an issue to lead with -- as opposed to an issue they have to react to.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:48 AM
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1. Yes, he's desparate--he needs SOMETHING to win on
Edited on Thu Jun-23-05 07:49 AM by rocknation
It's no coincidence that he's also mentioned a gay marriage amendment recently. How can anyone be AGAINST desecrating the flag--even though he hasn't exactly spelled out what it means? Burning? Putting it on clothing? Flying it after sundown?

:headbang:
rocknation
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:51 AM
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2. Lots of people desecrate the flag
They fly it on their cars and rip them.
They hang it out at night with no light, in the rain, etc...
They use it for clothes.

To be fair, if they push this issue to law, they will need to prosecute anyone who doesn't follow flag etiquette rules. Or lawsuits will follow...PERIOD!!!
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:27 AM
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18. Lots of people.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:53 AM
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3. distraction. n/t
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:55 AM
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4. This is a smoke screen ploy to divert us from focusing our
attention off of DSM....
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:57 AM
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5. They're perparing
for mass arrests. When the war protests start again in earnest, they want this in place.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 08:37 AM
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13. Ding. Ding. Ding.
Methinks you are correct. These guys are methodical, and leave little to chance.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:32 AM
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19. Also getting attack footage ready for 2006
They need it for commercials to visually push the Democrats are unpatriotic theme.

Would some graphics wizard please create a GOP elephant with back leg hiked and pissing on the Constitution? A cross tattoo on the hiney would be a nice touch, too. Bubble says: "Kiss my ass"
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 08:06 AM
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6. Whenever an administration runs into serious trouble...
they march out the usual quasi-patriotic tripe.

The instance of Flag burning in this nation is minuscule, almost to the point of being nonexistent. It is a 'Hot Button" issue that gets people talking about how 'patriotic' the GOP is.

R's don't own the Flag, and they should be beaten into the ground whenever they bring this type of crap up.

I have always found it profoundly absurd that those who jump and support flag burning amendments, jumped out of a Flag motif chair while holding a beer can decorated w/the Flag for the 4th of July, or eating off Flag inspired paper plates and wiped up slop w/Flag adorned napkins....all which will wind up either in a dump, or blown about the ground by the winds of irony.

I am sickened when I see Congress doing this kind of crap...:puke:
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 08:10 AM
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7. For crying out loud
I can't even remember the last time someone burned a flag. And yet, somehow people will get stirred up about this. I swear sometimes they put some sort of magic dust in those RNC envelopes.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 08:10 AM
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8. Bushes agenda is failing
The GOP congress is a do-nothing congress. This is what they do to fool people into thinking they are actually doing something. Flags, gay sex, tax cuts.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 08:10 AM
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9. The Playbook. As a last resort use.................
the flag issue. They do it again and again. Sometimes I wished they just passed it so it would force them to try something else.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 08:13 AM
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11. Well, I think a Dem
my senator,Diane Feinstein wrote it, didn't she? Or co-sponsored it? I just could not care less at this point. Maybe they should just pass it, like you said, so they will have to find something else to fire people up about.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 08:58 AM
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15. LOL, maybe that's what Feinstein is thinking. n/t
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 08:11 AM
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10. They do it every year around his time (nt)
nt
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Lowell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 08:17 AM
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12. You've pretty much covered it
Now that MJ trial is over they need another diversion. Notice what a low profile DeLay is keeping. He thinks we have forgotten his sorry ass too. Look! Overthere . . . a flag burner. Meanwhile our youth are dying in Iraq for nothing.
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Boredtodeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 08:40 AM
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14. Answer = 2006 turnout
Get those "patriot American republicans" to the polls. They used up Gay Hate in 2004; need a new red meat issue for their dogs.

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renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:07 AM
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17. Exactly. But I'll tell you this--
I'd rather have this be the wedge issue than people's personal relationships and families.

http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues/428793
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 08:59 AM
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16. Covering their nakedness in red, white and blue
Nevermind the illegal invasion of a weaker country
for oil and middle east bases, nor breaking of laws
by Congressman, or rallying around the brain dead
while thousands of innocents are killed by our
weapons of mass distruction. No, Republicans
want to wrap themselves in cloth flags made in China
while they whittle away at civil rights and
sell your private information to the highest bidder.

Pull back the curtain.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:37 AM
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20. DSM,DSM,DSM....The answer right now to all why's? n/t
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WhollyHeretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:41 AM
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21. It's definetly distraction material with it's main goal the war
They want people out there waving the flag and foaming at the mouth over the nonexistant flag desecration so they don't start thinking about how f**ked up our country and this war are under Bushco.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:59 AM
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22. Doesn't this always come up pre-4th of July?
Such an obvious political distraction and
brown-nosing. This time though, some serious
Dem Senators are onboard...like DiFi of CA.

Shame.
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