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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:43 AM
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Cellphones set off the bombs in London ?
Just like they set off the IEDs in Baghdad? Hmmmm. ... They are learning well in their new terrorist traing camp - against the best military in the world. That is not good. That does not bode well in the war on Terror.

I heard that tidbit on some radio news yesterday evening. If that is true, one person could have set off all four bombs? We cannot assume it was 4 people with one bomb each. But the way it was done is straight from the battlefield of Baghdad. That the way they are blowing up the GIs nowadays....with a simple call from a cellphone? Maybe Ted Kysinski was correct about "technology?
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:45 AM
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1. Not true
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:48 AM
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2. Why so?
You have more info?
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:51 AM
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7. from what I heard on the news, I thought parts of timing
devices had been found?? Would the explosions occuring while the trains were in transit rather than at a crowded platform suggest perhaps the timing wasn't optimal if maximum carnage was the aim?
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:53 AM
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10. I thought I heard it on the Sam Seder show last night ?
Maybe I heard incorrectly or Sam did not have up to date info? Good info to have...
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:55 AM
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12. Phones don't work in tunnels
"Blair confirmed that police considered shutting down London's cell phone networks Thursday as the explosions were reported, apparently out of concern the bombs were detonated by mobile phone, but ruled it out.

"We did consider it. We do have that ability," Blair said. But he said commanders considered how that would affect public confidence, and decided not to do it.

Moreover, investigators doubt that cell phones - used in the Madrid train attacks a year ago - were used to detonate the bombs in the Underground because the phones often don't work in the system's deep tunnels, London's transport police said Friday."

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050708/D8B78UT82.html
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Beaver Tail Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:49 AM
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3. Was watching teh news
They were on timers apparently
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:49 AM
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4. The new improved CIA has said that the war in Iraq is a training
ground for terrorists world wide, that they are going there to learn tactics and techniques and then returning home to pass the knowledge on to others.

The term Improvised Explosive Device has become a misnomer as the weapons become more and more sophisticated. Pagers make excellent detonators as do cell phones. The same techniques used in Iraq are now showing up in Afghanistan and other places, ie, London.

But don't worry, I have it on good authority that the world is safer now that Saddam is not it power . . .
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nerddem Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:57 AM
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13. washer/dryer timers have been used too
heard about it on npr yesterday
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 12:10 PM
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15. Anything that keeps time can be used as a detonator. In 'Nam
the Cong would take wrist watches and remove the crystal, break off the minute hand and use the hour hand to make contact between two wires. Crude and not all that reliable, but enough to get the job done often enough.

Buy why do that when you've got funding from the Saudis . . .
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:49 AM
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5. cell phones weren't working.
what's up with that? all morning yesterday there were numerous reports about cellphones not working and long lines at the few existing payphones.....was this just because they were overwhelmed with emergency calls?
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:51 AM
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6. Probably
We had the same problem 9/11
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:52 AM
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9. Probably an overload of base stations. It happens every time
there is a major emergency. Land lines also become very unreliable because of the traffic. Ever get the message "your call cannot be completed at this time, all lines are busy"?
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:54 AM
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11. The UK gov't told the cell phone companies to disconnect.
They can do it here, too. Only makes sense.
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:51 AM
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8. One of the news shows...
..forget which one, had on an expert that said the bombs could have been set by a single person.
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Monkie Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 12:06 PM
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14. any highschool kid could use cellphones as trigger
this isn't new.
no advanced knowledge required in bombmaking past maybe highschool chemistry and physics (and a twisted mind)
the cia even went so far as to produce comic style "terror manuals" which suggests to me they had trouble recruiting anyone with a highschool education to do their dirty work..
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