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LBJBestEver Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 10:34 PM
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I will say this, if Edwards comes in 2nd in NH---WATCH OUT.
He could do very well in the Feb 3 states. A 2nd place finish in NH will give JRE even more press, and when the guy gets press his numbers go up. If it becomes an all out battle for delegates between Kerry and Edwards, I tend to like Edwards in that matchup. He appeals in places like SC, OK, MO, VA, FL etc etc. Places needed to win delegates. It could get crazy.
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adamrsilva Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 10:35 PM
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1. If Edwards gets second in NH
Our ticket is Kerry/Edwards.
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 10:37 PM
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3. I spotted a typo in your post
It should read:

Our ticket is Edwards/Kerry
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tryanhas Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 09:22 PM
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35. Edwards doesn't want to be Kerry's VP!
And I don't want him to be MR. SKULL AND BONES' VP!

Why would Edwards taint himself by getting involved in Skull and Bones' crap???

And for the love of God would people get over the "HE COULD HELP US WIN SOUTHERN STATES" argument!

NO ONE VOTES BASED ON YOUR VP! ESPECIALLY NOT VOTERS IN NC, SC, TN, GA, OR VA!

If you are so worried about Dean or Kerry's ability to win southern states, and you all like Edwards anyway, then why not just vote for him in the first place! No one is going to select Edwards as a VP, because he would make that person on the top of the ticket look bad everytime that they campaign together!

Kerry might as well select Ted Kennedy as his VP if he is the nominee. Selected Edwards is not going to make anything easier for him.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 10:40 PM
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7. No way
Edwards would sweep the south and put Kerry in a hole. 1 on 1 I think Edwards could win. he is more likeable with a more compelling story.
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9119495 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 10:43 PM
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12. Why would he accept 2nd if he is in position to sprint past Kerry?
Even if untrue, he would have to play it that way. As they seek to explain the differences between them, there will be alot of negativity creeping up--especially if they become the only two. I just don't see how they could hook up--unless its at the convention or something.
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LBJBestEver Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 10:47 PM
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14. I see it more as a Reagan-Bush '80 thing.
Edited on Sun Jan-25-04 10:48 PM by LBJBestEver
*If JRE doesn't win this thing in his own right*

Bush and Reagan went at it in the 1980 primaries only to team up later.
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ALago1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 10:36 PM
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2. I agree
The time for Edwards to shine has yet to emerge. Come next Tuesday I think we'll see him at the forefront and perhaps even gain "frontrunner" status.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 10:38 PM
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4. both would lose against bush.... edwards be serious...edwards is great
at telling the crowd what they want to hear...not how he will do it...a rookie
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LBJBestEver Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 10:39 PM
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6. nope <nm>
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ALago1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 10:40 PM
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8. No
Edwards puts forth a vision of America and the people respond. The mechanics of how to get there are all available as literature he passes out at campaign stops, as well as on his website.

He lets people know this before even engaging in his stump speech, telling them to go to his website for his exact policies.
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 10:43 PM
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10. You must not be listening -
Edwards has the most detailed and comprehensive policy proposals of all of the candidates.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 10:43 PM
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11. worked pretty good for a couple of other southerners
and he has told them how he will do it.

we'll see I guess.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:21 PM
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26. Edwards concerns me because of his lack of campaign experience...
But then again, if he has a good campaign manager then he should be fine.
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Rooktoven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 09:45 PM
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37. Correction--
Edwards beats Bush by the largest margin of ANY democrat.
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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 09:50 PM
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38. Have you read his sixty-page plan?
That's right, sixty.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 10:38 PM
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5. I am pulling for him for second
I am especially impressed with his stance on poverty, and credit-card reform.

I always look forward to hearing him speak on these issues.

I think he will do very well in SC. My .02.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 10:41 PM
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9. I've thought ever since Iowa
that it would come down to Kerry :vs: Edwards.


If so, my big hope is that they can keep it friendly enough to eventually join up on the same ticket. Democrats accross America are starting to sense that Kerry/Edwards is a winner that could lead to 16 years of Democrats in the White House.

I'm pulling for it.

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LBJBestEver Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 10:45 PM
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13. 24 years actually. JRE will pick Harold Ford Jr as his running mate in '12
Edited on Sun Jan-25-04 10:46 PM by LBJBestEver
HFJ will run when JRE's two terms are up.

We will have the White House for the next 24 years.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 10:50 PM
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15. Ooh that's smart thinkin'.
Course...in my scenario Edwards would already be the VP right now. In 2008 he'd pick up Harry Ford (who will be quite young still) and Harry would be the first African American president in 2016.

Ahhhhh dreams LOL.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 10:57 PM
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19. saw harold ford today on tv
and from the other times i have seen him he is really good. bill frist is going to leave the senate in 2008 (pretty sure it's for a presidential run) and i hope harold ford runs for senate then unless asked to be vp by the democratic president.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:15 PM
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24. I like it.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 01:42 AM
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27. Damn. I was hoping for Jan Schakowsky
You sure know how to hurt a guy.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 03:14 AM
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32. No worries...
Jan will be Harold's VP running-mate in 2012.
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Amager Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 10:56 PM
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18. I do too.
I prefer Edwards but I like Kerry too and I'd be happy to see it come down to those two. Very happy.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 10:58 PM
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20. how are you? nice to see more edwards supporters
there was a thread about an increase in kerry supporters here. but i'm also seeing more edwards supporters. nice to see that also.
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jenk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:04 PM
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22. hey Amager, welcome to the board
fellow member of the Edwards Coalition :) :hi:
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:10 PM
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23. Welcome to DU, Amager!
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Amager Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:31 PM
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33. Wow, thanks for all your welcomes
I'd really be happy with any of the candidates over Bush but Edwards is my favorite and Kerry a close second. I like aspects of all of the candidates actually, but decided to make a definitive decision recently and follow more closely.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 10:51 PM
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16. On the way home from work I listened to a replay of his CSpan talk today
Edited on Sun Jan-25-04 10:52 PM by spooky3
I think it is VERY important that we pick someone who is an appealing speaker in addition to being eminently well-qualified and capable. We have to win over those people who aren't very interested in politics but don't like Bush, and can be persuaded to get to the polls. And JE certainly fills that bill, and more. He is terrific.

I also heard some of Dean's stump talk before JE began and I thought he was AWESOME today in style, and was strong in substance too, especially on specific environmental proposals. Very clear about what is wrong with * on many topics and what he would do differently.
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KFC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 10:52 PM
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17. He should win in SC
He is the only candidate that can hold a candle to Kerry.

Edwards/Kerry/Graham trifecta box.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 10:58 PM
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21. I would lose some interest
in the election if that would be the case. I'd like to be proven wrong and think Edwards could carry the nation (I'd vote for him). But the dire questions facing our democracy would go unanswered in my opinion. He could only carry the country in a general election if the average voter is completely disenchanted with bush (because he wouldn't address the voter who has security concerns and is susceptable to the bush propaganda machine on the subject).
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:18 PM
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25. Edwards has run a great campaign
Edited on Sun Jan-25-04 11:35 PM by Forkboy
for 2008.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 01:51 AM
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28. true...
If Edwards comes in second, he will become the man to beat. If Kerry comes in first in New Hampshire, then Kerry will become the candidate best positioned to stop Edwards from winning the nomination. But winning second place is the key for Edwards success. He must win in every southern primary, with the exceptions of Arkansas and possibly Oklahoma.

But if he doesn't get second in New Hampshire, then Edwards will not be able to defeat Clark in most of the south..or Kerry outside of it!
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 02:23 AM
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29. Edwards doesn't need second, just a respectable showing
Edwards doesn't need second, just a respectable showing
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 03:11 AM
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31. Oh Kerry, How do you do the voodoo that you do?
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:35 PM
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34. I agree...he doesn't need the nomination, just a respectable showing.
;)
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jpgpenn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 09:26 PM
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36. For What? A NO experienced trial lawyer getting the GOP push ?
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