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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 10:34 PM
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Poll question: Who's the most self-loathing, hypocritcal gay Republican?
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 10:34 PM
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1. Great poll, zulch!
:toast:
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Starfury Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 10:39 PM
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2. Other: David Drier (R-CA)
He also likes being dominated... :)
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 10:40 PM
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3. Jerry Falwell (hot for Tinky Winky since 1999)
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 10:45 PM
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4. Roy Cohn gives any of those guys a run for their money.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 10:45 PM
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5. You forgot Santorum...
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 11:59 PM
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12. I think Santorum is an extreme-closet case
indeed I do
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 01:12 PM
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28. Santorum would get my vote
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 02:33 PM
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33. Santorum: Queen of them all...
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Gay Green Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 10:47 PM
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6. You forgot Princess Kkkarlina Rovina.
And he likes to be dominated too, from what I've heard.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 10:50 PM
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7. Roy Cohn would have to be the all-time winner in that category.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 11:00 PM
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8. ya forgot Rove....
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 11:17 PM
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9. My vote
went for Dubya.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 11:41 PM
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10. I GOTTA GO WITH ROVE TOO - HE GOT GANNON IN
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 12:13 AM
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13. Yup, Rove It Is! (nt)
I have to agree - strongly!
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Norwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 11:49 PM
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11. Its gotta be Rove n/t
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 12:13 AM
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14. You've included some that aren't out
& until they come out (of if they're even gay) I have to take exception to their names being on the list.

That being said in my typical holier-than-thou rant, I voted other for Andrew Sullivan.

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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 01:29 AM
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20. Why would you extend that courtesy to someone who profits from gay-bashing
Hillbilly Hitler art:



Blog:
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 11:15 AM
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22. Because the question was:
Who's the most self-loathing, hypocritcal gay Republican?

Drudge is the only one that is out. In fact I'm not even sure if he did come out.
Poll result (61 votes)
Matt Drudge (4 votes, 7%) Vote
Joe McCarthy (1 votes, 2%) Vote
J. Edgar Hoover (1 votes, 2%) Vote
Ken Mehlman (30 votes, 49%) Vote
Scott McClellan (3 votes, 5%) Vote
It's a tie (9 votes, 15%) Vote
Other (13 votes, 21%) Vote
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 01:08 PM
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25. He's not out.
Edited on Mon Jul-18-05 01:09 PM by iconoclastNYC
He was outed by David Brock in : "Blinded By The Right"

Drudge picked up David in his red geo metro..... with yellow roses.....brock: "God Matt thinks we're on a date"

(edited to add)
I don't think he's owned up to it tho.
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 02:04 PM
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31. I didn't think drudge ever came out.
I just take exception to speculating about whether someone is gay or not. Now, if they're out & anti-gay they're fair game imo
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 06:07 PM
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36. How would you describe closet gays who profit
from bashing other gays?
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 03:09 PM
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45. I'm not sure how to answer that.
Until someone 'outs' them self, I really don't like speculation on whether they're gay or not. Drudge has not outed himself, that I ever heard of. I remember Brock in Blinded by the Right outing him, but that's it.

The others on the list are mere speculation. I wouldn't doubt if some were gay, but again I don't like speculating. I find it sort of offensive. I don't know why; maybe because I find it mean & nasty. The right does it all the time with women -especially strong women-accusing them of being lesbians. Like all the innuendo about Sen. Clinton & AG Reno.

If someone is 'out' & gay bashes, or gay bashes & then is outed (I'm thinking of the guy in Washington) have at him with my blessings.

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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 03:23 PM
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46. I beg to disagree and agree
I'll agree with you that it's improper to speculate on the gayness of a person. However, in circumstances where a powerful person is clearly and overtly hostile towards the gays, I believe its fair game to discuss the root cause of thier hostility. Frankly, I believe men are so hostile to gay men because they are intimidated by the emotions that gay men illicit in thier subconsious desire. They feel threated by that shame and lash out with hatred. This is unreasonable and actually dangerous as it applies to men of power. For this reason, to out someone through speculation actually serves to strengthen the country and should be open for debate. For the record, I have no gay freinds. I do have freinds that may in fact be gay but I really don't give a shit, they're not making any laws based upon some irrational fear of shame and self-loathing. Jeff Gannon's boyfreind is one that probably fit that mold.
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 03:44 PM
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48. I'll agree to agree & disagree also. lol
No really, to speculate why there is such animosity toward gays by some is probably fair game. When my boys were younger they went through a very short bit of that name calling bull. I told them they must be questioning their own sexuality if they were so concerned about everyone else's. However, I kind of disagree w/why some so called adult men seem so hung up about gays. I have a long, probably boring theory on what the problem is. However, I would expect adult men to get over it.

you make a rational argument about why I should just shut up about not speculating.

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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 04:15 PM
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49. No, you're actually right
I was just trashing them a bit. It's stupid and childish and no ones business which side of the corn cob you like to chew on. But this is something we should be aware of, this irrational hatred, and focus in on it. I guarantee you, if we can link gay bashing to latent homosexual tendencies, the Contitutional Amendment to Allow Gay Marriage will pass with flying colors.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 01:06 PM
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24. He's disgusting
Read Michegilo Signoriles take on Sullivan's "I LOVE BEING AIDS-INFECTED" article...Sullivan brags about how much better his sex life is now that he's hiv poz.

Sullivan was spotted online looking for bareback (no condom) sex.
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 02:03 PM
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30. also, wasn't there something about a fist?
I honestly tried to avoid all that but someone it slipped into my brain.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 12:15 AM
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15. driers......he is the worst. eeew, cant stand the man. n/t
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Onceuponalife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 12:17 AM
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16. Roy Cohn
Hands down. Not only was he a self-hating gay man, but also an anti-semitic Jew. Really pathetic creature. Anyone see "Angels in America"? He was tormented by the ghost of Ethel Rosenberg. Great stuff!
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 12:49 AM
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17. Rush Limbaugh?
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 01:08 AM
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18. Neal Horsley
From Top Ten Idiots #198

Neal Horsley, infamous pro-life militant and occasional spokesman for the fundy terrorist organization "Army of God" admitted to Alan Colmes last week that he had had sex with a mule. Seriously. And the strange thing was, Horsley seemed to think that everyone else did that sort of thing, and the only reason that city-folk didn't know about it was because they were so out of touch with rural values. What a crackpot! Here's a partial transcript from Alan Colmes' radio show:


Colmes: Is it true?

Horsley: Hey, Alan, if you want to accuse me of having sex when I was a fool, I did everything that crossed my mind that looked like I...

Colmes: You had sex with animals?

Horsley: Absolutely. I was a fool. When you grow up on a farm in Georgia, your first girlfriend is a mule.

Colmes: I'm not so sure that that is so.

Horsley: You didn't grow up on a farm in Georgia, did you?

Colmes: Are you suggesting that everybody who grows up on a farm in Georgia has a mule as a girlfriend?

Horsley: It has historically been the case. You people are so far removed from the reality... Welcome to domestic life on the farm...

...

Horsley: You experiment with anything that moves when you are growing up sexually. You're naive. You know better than that... If it's warm and it's damp and it vibrates you might in fact have sex with it.

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/05/198.html
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 01:10 PM
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26. This thread is not about beastiality
And i think a lot of people are going to get offended by you making this connection.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 01:27 AM
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19. George W. Bush (check links)

Bush's gaiety:

http://mysite.verizon.net/myk15/bushhugsmanho.html">


http://mysite.verizon.net/myk15/bushhugsmanho.html


Hillbilly Hitler art:



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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 01:11 PM
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27. Your graphic is bullshit
#2 and #3 is not Gannon nor Guckert.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 02:51 PM
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35. I never thought that was Guckert either.
That bald guy has darker hair and skin than JimmyJeff. But of course that doesn't exclude Junior's strange facination with bald men's heads. It could very well be a sexual thing.

But as far as biggest gay republican hypocrite, I'd have to go with our own state's local contender Jim West, who frequented gay chatrooms on public computers, then offerred jobs to the guys he dated, all while supporting anti gay legislation.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 06:09 PM
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37. I didn't make that one. It does look more like the Rock
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 06:13 PM
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38. PHOTOS: Bush bald head fetish
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3661774

Hillbilly Hitler art:



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AtTheEndOfTheDay Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 08:43 PM
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43. I agree, it's Bush.
An example of such self loathing that motivates his revelling in death and war perhaps.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 01:30 AM
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21. Had to vote for Mehlman, all things considered...
but "It's a tie" is probably right and way funnier.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 12:06 PM
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23. David Drier (n/t)
TC
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Kickin_Donkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 01:31 PM
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29. Rush Limbaugh ...
Ask him about his Jeff Christie days in Pittsburgh.
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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 02:30 PM
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32. I dont think McClellan is gay
Just another stupid frat boy type that managed to graduate with no real job skills. Though he does seem to have an innate ability to repeat meaningless phrases over and over with little change in expression.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 02:35 PM
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34. Roy Cohn
They retired his jersey when he died.
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 06:22 PM
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39. another vote for Rick Santorum n/t
Edited on Mon Jul-18-05 06:23 PM by FormerRushFan
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 06:47 PM
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40. Savage Li'l Weiner n/t
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phoenixprogressive Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 07:05 PM
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41. Roy Cohn is all time greatest self loathing queer, but I voted for
"it's a tie" as they all are hypocrites but just not as accomplished as Roy Cohn in their destruction of other people. In time the living ones may achieve Roy Cohn greatness but I doubt it.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 08:27 PM
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42. Other: Ann Coulter. He really does prefer men. (n/t)
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 09:08 PM
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44. Somewhat obscure choice: Pete Williams
Edited on Mon Jul-18-05 09:08 PM by zulchzulu


Worked with Reagan and Cheney...now with MSNBC...or was...who freakin' cares.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 03:30 PM
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47. Rick Perry
Governor Goodhair of Texas
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Mister Mark Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 04:17 PM
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50. another vote for David Drier (n/t)
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 04:20 PM
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51. Arthur Finklestein
Right wing GOP consultant. Behind the scenes consultant who has worked for anti-gay GOP candidates. And yes, Finklestein is gay. And...he recently married his partner.

http://www.queerday.com/2005/apr/11/gop_consultant_arthur_finkelstein_marries_gay_partner.html
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 04:28 PM
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53. Oh god,
you win. I thought sullivan was a major self-loathing wad, but finklestein wins hands down. I could not believe that. He wants the same rights as hetero's but does nothing. Because he lives in Mass I guess he just assumes all gays can move there to get married.

My God, the hypocrisy.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 04:29 PM
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54. A plethora of Arthur Finkelstein posts from the Mass forum
Edited on Tue Jul-19-05 04:32 PM by paineinthearse
This guy is disgusting!

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See also:

Gay Republicans pushing for greater voice in party
The State, SC - May 1, 2005
... In early April, a well-connected Republican strategist, Arthur J. Finkelstein, acknowledged that he had wed his partner of 40 years. ...
http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/nation/115354...

Republicans want to keep Hillary Clinton off the presidential race
Pravda, Russia - Apr 22, 2005
... Arthur J. Finkelstein, a prominent Republican consultant/spin doctor is in charge of fundraising. The Republicans want to raise $10 million. ...
http://english.pravda.ru/world/20/91/368/15339_hillaryc...

Clinton Bashes Gay Political Consultant
Windy city Media Group, IL - Apr 20, 2005
Arthur J. Finkelstein, 59, is a conservative political consultant who has built his reputation helping to defeat liberal Democrats such as former New York Gov. ...
http://www.windycitymediagroup.com/gay/lesbian/news/ART...

MORE NATIONAL NEWS
Sovo.com, Southern - Apr 15, 2005
... WASHINGTON — Well-known Republican consultant Arthur J. Finkelstein announced last week that he married his male partner in a December civil ceremony at ...
http://www.sovo.com/2005/4-15/news/national/nibs.cfm

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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 04:21 PM
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52. my gay neirghbor Tom
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