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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 12:13 AM
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St. Louis Post-Dispatch: "KARL ROVE: He has betrayed the nation"
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/columnists.nsf/ericmink/story/9B4E75AD9D6F9A7D86257044003231CB?OpenDocument

It's ironic that political genius Karl Rove - and perhaps others - could end up in prison for exposing the identity of an undercover CIA agent. Ironic, because their essential mistake in doing so was one of identity: their own.

They think they work for President George W. Bush. They don't. They work for America.

There's no reason to believe that Rove gave much thought at all to Valerie Plame Wilson, a 20-year CIA veteran working in the agency's counterproliferation division, when he mentioned her to at least two reporters in July 2003. The only reason she was in his sights was that she was married to Joseph Wilson IV. Wilson, a retired veteran U.S. diplomat, had gone public with disturbing information that the Bush administration might have twisted intelligence information to support its campaign for starting a war with Iraq.

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Firenze777 Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 12:23 AM
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1. The paragraph was very well put...
The administration's response to the Wilson-Plame-Rove mess has been a laughable catalogue of excuses from denial to defense to rationalization - not unlike the ever-changing rationales offered for the invasion of Iraq after weapons of mass destruction were nowhere to be found. There is nothing laughable, however, about the effects of Rove's blind zeal to reinforce Bush's power and advance his agenda.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 08:40 PM
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23. And so does this one.


.........There's no reason to believe that Rove gave much thought at all to Valerie Plame Wilson, a 20-year CIA veteran working in the agency's counterproliferation division, when he mentioned her to at least two reporters in July 2003. The only reason she was in his sights was that she was married to Joseph Wilson IV. Wilson, a retired veteran U.S. diplomat, had gone public with disturbing information that the Bush administration might have twisted intelligence information to support its campaign for starting a war with Iraq.
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inanna Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 12:23 AM
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2. Must read article!
Nominated.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 12:25 AM
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3. Nice article
Edited on Sat Jul-23-05 12:26 AM by Nite Owl
and coming from 'middle America' too.

"They think they work for President George W. Bush. They don't. They work for America."

But our pResident is supposed to work for us too and it is clear with this that he isn't and never has. Heads should have rolled years ago but instead they stick together like a real mafia family.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 12:27 AM
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4. Excellent!
Nominating.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 12:32 AM
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5. Oh, that is music to my ears!
:)
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 12:36 AM
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6. Bush/Rove got a little too mean-spirited and narcissistic
Edited on Sat Jul-23-05 12:36 AM by Erika
They didn't like Wilson telling the truth so they outed his wife in revenge and an attempt to intimidate. Their ego's were more important to them than our intelligence.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 01:48 AM
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11. it is just disgusting beyond belief, Erika
I know if it was Democrats I could never support something like this or make excuses for it - it's smarmy, underhanded, sickening, TREASONOUS. *UGH*

I put my country ABOVE my party.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 12:37 AM
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7. Here's another one...... The Kentucky Post:
..."The upshot is an eroding credibility, evidence of which is an ABC News poll that shows only 25 percent of the public believes the White House is cooperating fully with the leak investigation."

http://news.kypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050723/NEWS02/507230304/1014

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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 12:48 AM
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8. Bush is so Nixonian
plus the most secretive administration in our history. After watching the CIA agents on C-Span, it was easy to note they were totally disgusted with Bush trying to hide the truth of this issue and turning it into a partisan issue.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 01:11 AM
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9. Karl Rove betrayed his nation. And we're surprised because why, exactly?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 01:37 AM
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10. anyone who doesn't get off the neocon bus now
can be presumed to approve of treason, pure and simple
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 01:54 AM
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12. Tasty reference here.
McCloskey said he asked Ehrlichman, an honorable World War II veteran and attorney, why he had lied for Nixon. Ehrlichman replied, "It took us three-and-a-half years to be corrupted by the power. . . ."

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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 04:41 PM
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15. thats it right there isnt it~ "corrupted by power" (the media the govt etc
and on and on

truth will prevail
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 02:41 AM
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13. Delicious!!! ... The press can taste the blood now!
:woohoo:

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 05:34 PM
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18. Finally! ..with the Blood
in the water!
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 02:19 PM
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14. the heartland revolts!
Glad to see the dispatch has not let their repuke ways get in the way of truth.
:woohoo:
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 05:17 PM
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16. Who did this paper endorse for president in 2004?
Is it usually conservative?
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SaintLouisBlues Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 05:56 PM
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20. The Post endorsed Kerry
The Post-Dispatch is historically liberal, less so since St. Louis joined the unfortunate ranks of a one-newspaper town. Eric Mink can really bring the wood. He's also editorial page editor.

The paper was started by Joe Pulitzer, and the editorial page prints "The Pulitzer Pledge" everyday:

will always fight for progress and reform, never tolerate injustice or corruption, always fight demagogues of all parties, never belong to any party, always oppose privileged classes and public plunderers, never lack sympathy with the poor, always remain devoted to the public welfare, never be satisfied with merely printing news, always be drastically independent, never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by predatory plutocracy or predatory poverty.”

That being said, they haven't lived up to this pledge since they broke The Teapot Dome Scandal.

BTW, St. Louis City voted Kerry 81%. Metro St. Louis also went Kerry.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 08:03 PM
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21. Thanks
This ignorant Californian appreciates the info!:)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 05:25 PM
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17. Nominated!
Eric Mink sounds Just like a real reporter..where has he been hiding?

This is the kind of stuff I've been yearning to read!!

Wonder if the people of Missouri are wishing they had voted Kerry in?

:patriot:
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 05:42 PM
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19. Let's be clear: This is a column in the Dispatch, and not an editorial by
the Dispatch.

Just saying.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 08:14 PM
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22. Almost all Repubs have no loyalty to America.
They are only loyal to their party and their corp. benefactors.
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