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bpyatt Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:31 AM
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Very interesting Rovegate information regarding Robert Novak.
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 08:04 AM by bpyatt
. . .

Harlow, the former CIA spokesman, said in an interview yesterday
that he testified last year before a grand jury about conversations he
had with Novak at least three days before the column was published.
He said he warned Novak, in the strongest terms he was permitted to
use without revealing classified information, that Wilson's wife had
not authorized the mission and that if he did write about it, her name
should not be revealed.

Harlow said that after Novak's call, he checked Plame's status and
confirmed that she was an undercover operative. He said he called
Novak back to repeat that the story Novak had related to him was wrong
and that Plame's name should not be used. But he did not tell Novak
directly that she was undercover because that was classified
information.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/26/AR2005072602069_pf.html
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:41 AM
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1. Great article! Exposing the traitors and media whores right and left.
:thumbsup:

Fitzgerald is on a roll. Yay.
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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:41 AM
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2. Harlow couldn't tell Novak she was undercover ...
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 07:42 AM by sunnystarr
he'd be breaking the law. Novak knows that anyone who has access to classified information and knowing reveals it to someone without clearance will be prosecuted.

Harlow warned Novak twice which actually confirmed Valerie's CIA status.

He printed it anyway. He's a TRAITOR!!!

*edited to put in word I left out
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:43 AM
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3. Novak needs to go
straight to jail!!!
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 08:15 AM
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5. Agree. That's why I started this
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4199318&mesg_id=4199318
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 08:02 AM
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4. "Did not tell Novak.. that she was undercover"?? that's not the issue
the fact that anyone told the press that wilson's wife worked for the CIA is what outed her. the person committing the treason did not have to mention whether she was undercover or mention her name.

All that matters is that someone from the white house told the press that wilson's wife worked for the CIA, which blew her cover.

Plame-Wilson was known, by her friends, to be working for an insurance agency up until Novak printed his treasonous story.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 08:15 AM
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6. My understanding is that she was known to work
at the CIA by some. The top secret part was that she worked on covert missions not, as the Republican talking points indicate, at a desk job. She had a more treacherous job because if caught the government would not say she was working on a mission for them. Some at the CIA are given official cover and passports. So, if caught, the government supports them.

After reading your post, I've heard the insurance agency cover also. I've also heard about the non-official status. I'm not sure how it all fits together.
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 08:22 AM
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8. According to Wilson, his wife was known by friends and family to be
working at an insurance agency. that was her official "cover". that "cover" was blown with Novaks public outing of her real job.

think about it for a minute.. if she was an undercover agent, why would anyone know she worked for the CIA? that had to be known by people VERY high up..

there was simply no reason to discuss her CIA status with a reporter other than to send a message to wilson to shut up about the niger/uranium info.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:29 AM
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10. That is just incorrect
There are hundreds if not thousands of CIA employees that go to work every day at CIA offices around the country that have their job title and name classified. Giving out her name and tying her to CIA was indeed releasing classified information possibly even SECRET information. I doubt there are ANY covert agents that never return to America or work in America at times. Every single one at one time or another will have a position in America and by having that doesn't mean their status has been declassified. In fact the opposite just may be true.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:36 AM
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11. What's incorrect about the previous post?
Maybe I'm missing your point, but what you posted doesn't seem to contradict the previous poster... could you make your point more clearly, please? Thanks.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:41 PM
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14. I guess I misread the post
Sorry. Ooops I thought it said because she worked at the CIA she couldn't have been undercover. My Bad :spank:
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 11:50 AM
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13. Valerie Wilson and the CIA did not want her to be known as
a CIA employee, thus the insurance job "cover".. apparently, that cover was blown by Rove/Novak/etc for the purpose of seeking revenge against her husband = TREASON.

freeptards want to believe that she had some insignificant "desk job" and wasnt' anyone important therefore her name wasn't a secret. apparently, they are, once again.. talking out of their asses.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 08:21 AM
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7. Thanks for posting -- a lot of good info in this WP article and
Welcome to DU!!!!

:hi:
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 08:38 AM
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9. Okay, the official name for this is TRAITOR-GATE
Randi was talking yesterday and said that we really should get together with a name and that traitor-gate is the best one. I agree, because what it was was treason. Traitor-gate will resonate with the general public, like no other name.

zalinda
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:37 AM
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12. Ohhhh, look at Armitage's role
Interesting:

People familiar with this part of the probe provided new details about the memo, including that it was then-Deputy Secretary of State Richard L. Armitage who requested it the day Wilson went public and asked that a copy be sent to then-Secretary of State Colin L. Powell to take with him on a trip to Africa the next day. Bush and several top aides were on that trip. Carl W. Ford Jr., who was director of the Bureau of Intelligence and Research at the time and who supervised the original production of the memo, has appeared before the grand jury, a former State Department official said.
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