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DemsUnite Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:20 AM
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Those who think Iraq War sparks terror are "despicable," says Friedman
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Beaver Tail Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:25 AM
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1. Looks like the excuse maker is Friedman.
Of course if others do it we call it terrorism. If we do it we call it War.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:26 AM
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2. Friedman believes Muslims should just behave
and sign on to our vision of world domination (he's gunning for a nice, cushy desk job in the Fourth Reich).
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:27 AM
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3. WHAT AN ASS
he helped push this crap, and he has just as much blood on his hands as the administration

The NY times deserves all the crap they are getting for misleading the public into the Iraq war, allowing miller, and freidman to push it

maybe he should take another trip to Saudi Arabia to see how they really feel

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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:28 AM
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4. not nearly as despicable as those
who earn their living by telling lies and planting deceit.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:33 AM
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5. "Despicable":
1) Invading a country based on lies
2) Being an apologist for a war based on lies
3) Lying about the predictable blowback from said war
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:36 AM
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6. delete
Edited on Fri Jul-29-05 10:37 AM by CJCRANE
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:37 AM
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7. I'd like to see him
say that face to face with the head of the British intelligence services who advised before the Iraq war that it would increase the terrorist threat.

(Not to mention most of the British public).

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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:44 AM
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8. Isn't "dethpicable" a Daffy Duck word? n/t
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sshan2525 Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:52 AM
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9. Friedman has no credibility left..............
He used to be a great read, but he went over to the dark side after 9/11.
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DemsUnite Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:57 AM
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10. Realsim is dispicable, apparently
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 11:00 AM
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11. I think Thomas Friedman is "dispicable!"
That puts me one notch above most smart people.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 11:01 AM
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12. Funny they don't consider calling for the blacklisting
of people who are practicing their First Amendment right to speak out and question the government, "hate speech."

Friedman's speech was much more hateful - and anti-Constitutional - than anything people against the Iraqi War are saying.

BUT, I defend Friedman's right to say what he says and make an ass out of himself by doing it.
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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 12:06 PM
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13. Morons, morons, MORONS!!!!
Why are all these MORONS wasting good oxygen???
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 12:12 PM
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14. Friedman is only a legend in his remaining working brain cell...
He outsources his thinking to Bush World Inc. They got a good deal the whole thing was a buck - just one dollar! :rofl:
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 12:24 PM
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15. There is a difference between saying Iraq increases terrorism and saying
terrorists actions are "understandable." I know no one on the left who believes such drivel, and Friedman is despicable to try and make such an absurd connection.

He knows better. So we are left to wonder why he would say such an absurd thing.
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 12:59 PM
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16. You know what I don't understand?
Does this guy think that if all of us who oppose the war keep silent that the situation in Iraq will be resolved peacefully? Does he think the Iraqi citzens will suddenly embrace capitalism (code word for "freedoms") and become a miniature version of the US?
Does he think that we should blindly accept whatever is told to us by the government as gospel? I was always told the ability to questiona dn dissent is what made this country the envy of the rest of the world. Kind of funny, when we exercise those rights, certain people get very nervous. I wouldn't be surprised if Mr. Friedman stood to gain from the war in some manner..... :shrug:
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:02 PM
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17. a writer who can't distinguish between "explain" and "justify"
Edited on Fri Jul-29-05 01:25 PM by welshTerrier2
there are many causes of terrorism ... terrorists don't just leap out of bed in the morning and decide to blow-up a bunch of stuff for no reason at all ... they have reasons for their actions ...

this does not mean that these reasons are necessarily justified or acceptable to anyone else ... so, terrorists act based on their reasons for acting and others are free to judge whether they believe the actions are justified given the reasons provided ... the point is, the two are not the same ...

for a word-jockey, Friedman is totally out to lunch ... look at how he conflates the words "explains" and "justification" in the following two sentences from his article:

After every major terrorist incident, the excuse makers come out to tell us why imperialism, Zionism, colonialism or Iraq explains why the terrorists acted. and

There is no political justification for 9/11, 7/7 or 7/21.

Friedman uses illogic like this to condemn the left (although he does not specifically mention the left in his article) ... what Mr. Friedman doesn't seem to be able to grasp is that the left not only sees terrorism that condones the killing of innocent citizens as immoral, but sees US foreign policy as immoral as well!!

There's plenty of immorality to go around ... condemning terrorism and US imperialism is not an either-or proposition ...
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chieftain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:08 PM
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18. Friedman is a brilliant fool.
He has a seductive view of what a globalized world could be and yet thinks that Neanderthals like Little George and Cheney want the same thing and are trying to create it.
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DemsUnite Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:00 PM
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19. LOL
Well put.
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