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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 09:09 AM
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New GOP talking points in the Oven
Imagine rove and his devils in the dungeon of the white house working on the next round of spin to keep the lemmings in line.

"Bringing the troops home now is the Christian thing to do."

"Not another dead American Soldier in Iraq. President bush has suffered enough."

"Our work in Iraq is done. When we leave they will throw flowers."

"Nation Building is a liberal idea."


The haven't told the truth in the past and they won't tell the truth in the future but their base will lap it up like a crack whore on bourbon street. How pathetic to be a bush supporter in 2005!
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 09:13 AM
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1. WaPo started "lowering" with Sunday "U.S. Lowers Sights" article
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/13/AR2005081300853.html?sub=AR

U.S. Lowers Sights On What Can Be Achieved in Iraq
Administration Is Shedding 'Unreality' That Dominated Invasion, Official Says

By Robin Wright and Ellen Knickmeyer
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, August 14, 2005; A01



The Bush administration is significantly lowering expectations of what can be achieved in Iraq, recognizing that the United States will have to settle for far less progress than originally envisioned during the transition due to end in four months, according to U.S. officials in Washington and Baghdad.

The United States no longer expects to see a model new democracy, a self-supporting oil industry or a society in which the majority of people are free from serious security or economic challenges, U.S. officials say.

"What we expected to achieve was never realistic given the timetable or what unfolded on the ground," said a senior official involved in policy since the 2003 invasion. "We are in a process of absorbing the factors of the situation we're in and shedding the unreality that dominated at the beginning."<snip>

Barbers post signs saying they do not shave men, after months of barbers being killed by religious extremists. Ethnic or religious-based militias police the northern and southern portions of Iraq. Analysts estimate that in the whole of Iraq, unemployment is 50 percent to 65 percent.<snip>

"We didn't calculate the depths of feeling in both the Kurdish and Shiite communities for a winner-take-all attitude," said Judith S. Yaphe, a former CIA Iraq analyst at the National Defense University.
<snip>
Washington now does not expect to fully defeat the insurgency before departing, but instead to diminish it, officials and analysts said. There is also growing talk of turning over security responsibilities to the Iraqi forces even if they are not fully up to original U.S. expectations, in part because they have local legitimacy that U.S. troops often do not.
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Pentagon officials originally envisioned Iraq's oil revenue paying many post-invasion expenses. But Iraq, ranked among world leaders behind Saudi Arabia in proven oil reserves, is incapable of producing enough refined fuel amid a car-buying boom that has put an estimated 1 million more vehicles on the road after the invasion. Lines for subsidized cheap gas stretch for miles every day in Baghdad.

Oil production is estimated at 2.22 million barrels a day, short of the goal of 2.5 million. Iraq's pre-war high was 2.67 million barrels a day.
<snip>

Knickmeyer reported from Baghdad.

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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 09:36 AM
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2. This is just absurd
"Washington now does not expect to fully defeat the insurgency before departing, but instead to diminish it".

Then after we leave, the demoralized insurgents will just go home to lick their wounds. :crazy:
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 09:47 AM
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3. We need troops for Iran :-(
:-(
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 10:03 AM
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4. I'm sure they're working on new talking points, but I don't think they
can sue the get ot of Iraq promo. There are way too many hardcore hawks in the Pub party to let them say that kind of stuff. Slowly lower the bar, yes, but not a pullout.
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