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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:58 AM
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Poll question: At one point do we start pulling together behind one candidate?
Edited on Tue Jan-27-04 08:58 AM by WilliamPitt
I am basing this poll on the supposition that Kerry is going to win New Hampshire, and that such a win will give him great momentum going into the Feb. 3 primaries. On this, I could be wildly wrong, of course.

But say I'm right. Say Kerry does win, and start to charge. At what point do we pull together behind the nominee? My vote was for after Super Tuesday, just FYI.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:00 AM
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1. for 90% of us it's after super Tuesday
for the other 10% - probably never.
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xrepub Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:08 AM
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25. dif between repugs and dems
We have the majority, but they work together. How else did the chimp win?
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:00 AM
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2. I think unity will be hard to achieve
I really do.
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:05 AM
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5. I agree with you

Unity will be difficult, even in the face of Bush*
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 01:22 PM
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35. I disagree, I think unity is possible BECAUSE of Bush.
Without him, we'd surely collapse into diehard partisan camps. Because of him, I think we will be willing to make all sorts of concessions to each other to guarantee Bush is removed from the White House and shipped back to Texas.

Any bets on whether he stays in Texas after his loss?
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kayob1 Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:15 AM
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27. I'm with you
Love your sig line, by the way. :)
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Monte Carlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:03 AM
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3. Unless NY, CA, and others give us mixed results...
... this primary will be pretty much over with on March 2nd. I hope Kerry gets the nomination from it, but if he doesn't have the showing by then, it'll be time to change camps.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:04 AM
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4. Voted #5
Those of us who oppose the president's foreign policy need a voice. We also need some leverage to take to the convention.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:05 AM
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6. Never! Why break a beautiful pattern?
Geez, Will. We're DEMOCRATS! Tramps like us, baby we were born to RUN! And RUN! And RUN!

We have candidates in the show just trying to rack up delegates to push an agenda. Money is being wasted while the Republicans have a war chest that outpaces our best by 2 to 1.

Hey, I just LOVE playing the underdog. Don't you? What are you, some kind of COMMIE?

Sorry for the negativism Will, but the Pickering thing and the CBS ad bust just underscored for me the major reasons we are all likely big-time screwed.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:07 AM
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7. I'm thinking it may go to the convention??
Unless Kerry runs away with it....
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:09 AM
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8. One of the perpetual questions at DU
And I'm not trying to diminish concern about it. In a party with a history of circular firing squads and candidates who seem to enter murder/suicide pacts this question is frequently brought to mind.

But, if we did this in a coordinated way, adding other perpetual questions (maybe not--have you waxed your yak ), we could run a tracking poll and see if and when attitudes ever change.
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Northwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:11 AM
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9. As soon as Dean is nominated
Then or never.
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:14 AM
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10. Depends on what you mean by "pulling together"
Pledge our vote in the general election? I'm there, and have been forever.

Promise to donate? Maybe, I don't know.

The fact is, I'm never going to be excited by John Kerry. If he is the nominee, great, I'll vote for him and hope with every fiber of my being that he beats Bush. But he doesn't inspire me. He doesn't give me hope. The only thing that keeps him from being our Bob Dole is that Gephart was our Bob Dole. And there's a cold fear in the pit of my stomach that Bush will destroy Kerry in the general election.

I think that my energies toward changing things through political process are going to go in a more local direction.
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Nadienne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 01:37 PM
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37. Good point
I, too, am with the democrat in the general election. Even if my candidate doesn't get the nomination, I will do my best to ... guide ... those I know (and those I can affect) in the direction that is best for this country - away from Bush.

But will I support the nominee with my money? Depends on if I have money, and it depends on the nominee.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:15 AM
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11. After the convention.
I'm with "the question" all the way to the convention.
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Toby109 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:15 AM
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12. The earlier the better
IMO
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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:15 AM
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13. I didn't vote.
Sorry, Will, I'm ever the optimist here. LOL

My first instinct was to say after Super Tuesday, but then I thought "Well but what if the race is too close to call? Do I just quite on Kucinich??" I already know the answer to the second question which also answers the first. I can't quit on Dennis Kucinich.
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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:16 AM
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14. After Super Tuesday
At that point we will almost certainly have a nominee. If not, we're in deep, deep trouble.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:16 AM
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15. Not until the convention
and not a minute before
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:18 AM
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16. I will stay with my candiate as long as he is in it. I'm a long-hauler,
not a fair weather supporter. I will back the nominee when the nominee is choosen.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:19 AM
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17. Sort of a spite vote :)
I voted never because I don't want to get behind a candidate sure to loose in November. But thats not really what I plan to do, I just don't want to answer your damn question right now! :)
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isbister Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:19 AM
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18. After Feb. 3
maybe after Feb. 10th (barring a major Kerry meltdown)
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:20 AM
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19. Actually, it might be never for me (though I voted #5)
I will vote for the nominee but if the nominee doesn't oppose the president's policies and ask real questions concerning foreign policy, I never will quit criticising that candidate and will verbally be a pain in the butt.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:21 AM
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20. can't vote because you didn't list the right answer
i'd have voted "when the outcome is clear"
the date is unsure but will likely happen before a candidate has enough delegates.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:29 AM
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21. We do not have a candidate until one has more than 50% of the delegates
This thing could go to the convention and it is quite possible that the person with the most delegates will not be the nominee.

Until there are enoguh delegates to put one candidate over the top, it ain't over.
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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:33 AM
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29. WALT! You gotta quit that!
I'm actually beginning to LIKE you!:evilgrin: :toast:
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:04 AM
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22. As long as their are two viable candidates
I'm gonna keep my options open. However, when one hits 50%+1 in delegates, that person becomes my candidate.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:06 AM
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23. As someone who is immensely torn
still between three candidates--Edwards, Kerry, Clark--in that order, I don't see myself committing until the last delegate.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:07 AM
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24. In a true democracy, one would wait. Me, I'm waiting for the last
man standing, because no one candidate seems to be outshining the rest. We're jumping the gun here folks. :hi:
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styersc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:10 AM
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26. WHEN MY CANDIDATE IS IN THE LEAD!!!!!
<Red faced, stomping my feet and banging on the desk>
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:26 AM
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28. Try to find a copy of "The Making of the President 1972"
See how we Fecked-Ep that Primary Season..Even John Vliet Lindsay would've been a better national candidate than A3 McGovern.:wtf:


It was a lazy Friday afternoon, Pre-Christmas when one of my Soph's Opined,after reading of Dr. D's 30%Pt. LEAD in New Hampshire:


" Sir, Doesn't this smell like 1972 all over again":puke:


Certainly does, Jennifer...it certainly does: A++

G.G.:smoke:
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Mr. McD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:51 AM
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30. After the convention...
I will vote for the Dem candidate in the GE but only Dean gets my money and my time. If Dean is not the nominee then my money goes to Barbara Boxer.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 01:06 PM
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31. If kerry takes it
Never.

Ill vote for him thats it.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 01:10 PM
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32. Never, if it's Kerry.
Or, Edwards for that matter.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 01:18 PM
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33. Just as soon as that candidate is Howard Dean
:7
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 01:20 PM
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34. At one time Will YOU suggested September. So I'll say ohhhh September.
:hi:
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 01:27 PM
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36. When a winner is declared
I don't think it will be decided at the convention, though. When he's got the delegates.
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populistmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 01:40 PM
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38. Delegates
Whomever wraps up enough delegates first. Seems pretty obvious to me now anyway.

Dean first, Anyone but Bush second.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 01:47 PM
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39. When you can convince everyone here that if we don't
we are looking at 4 more years of Monkey Boy.

I honestly believe that DU is not a good indicator of whether there will be Democratic unity once the nomination is essentially decided because my feeling (just gut but based on observation) is that many here are very new to the process and are not yet ready to make any compromises.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:02 PM
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40. If it's Kerry
I'll join in but ladies and gentlemen
the air will have exited the balloon.
Kerry performs the impossible--makes me
yearn for Gore. Did ya ever have to fake
a smile for ten months? Same ol' same ...
My hatred of Bush will have to inspire
me. Hating who youre fighting against
aint as good as loving who youre fighting for.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:07 PM
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41. Sounds like a song - "If you can't be with the one you love,
love the one you're with" doo doo doo doo di da doo

Hopefully most of us will also reach the same conclusion.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:11 PM
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42. never could fake da love
gonna be like dancin
with my dull brother
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:11 PM
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43. "Hating who you're fighting against aint as good as...
loving who you're fighting for."

Truer words were never spoken.

I'm with Kucinich till the convention, or he drops. Not a second before.
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Darth_Ole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:17 PM
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44. It won't happen all at once.
It'll happen gracefully.

Should canidates start to drop out until there's only 2 or 3 or 4, people will come around eventually. We have to get rid of Shrub!
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:31 PM
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45. Okay, I discovered a scenario when more than 50% of delegates
won't be required.

so there are two ways we can unite behind a candidate:

1) The standard way of a single candidate has more than 50% of the delegates.

2) All candidates save one have formally dropped out of the race.
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