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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:32 PM
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"the Three Presidents ask the country to give cash" - why doesn't
Bush cancel his tax rebates to the rich and his 9 billion dollar gift to the oil companies.

Let them give....let the government spend OUR money on N.O. that they have collected instead of giving it to bush oil, pharma, enron
buddies.

America now robs the poor and gives to the rich.

Bill,you better not ask for one dime from the people.
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:36 PM
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1. We Three Kings
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 05:36 PM by BlueJac
More like get together to plan a money campaign from the poor for the poor. The top 1% will not give!
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:46 PM
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2. Anyone remeber Bush Sr.'s Thousand Points of Light which
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 05:49 PM by Humor_In_Cuneiform
was supposed to substitute for government programs to help those who couldn't help themselves? Meaning a lot of individuals were supposed to voluntarily donate to help them.

Problem is you can't count on those points to come through and come through at the right time.

IOW, it was bs.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:54 PM
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3. It's like some extortion scheme. "Send cash now or we'll let them drown"
Our taxes should already cover a portion of these expenses via simple disaster planning, so donations could and should also consist of material supplies or similar immediate use items.

At this time, I think there's a strong argument to be made that material donations are of more use during initial stages of the disaster, and cash would be preferred later, during possible reconstruction.

Monetary donations are useful I'm sure, but the demand for "cash only" surely does raise an eyebrow, esp. when FEMA is telling people to send the checks to Pat Robertson.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:46 PM
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18. WEll put RTP, I'm sending clothes and canned food, cereal, anything
that can be eaten right out of the box or can.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:44 PM
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4. I pay my taxes and they have been used to support an
illegal war in Iraq, why in the hell should I give cash for this when it is the governments job to provide for the people of the US not Iraq?
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:45 PM
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5. And Bill just goes along.
He has lost me.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:49 PM
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6. He want us to give money (which I have), so he don't have to give
money. He did the same bullshit to Tsunami. Mr. Bush, we are on to your bullshit!
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:52 PM
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7. Roll back the tax cuts to the wealthy, and credit interest rates to the
working poor and people would gladly give. But as it is, working people are catching hell trying to pay off those exhorbidant interest rates and now those high gasoline costs.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:05 PM
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8. Let's start by cancelling the 1.5 billion welfare grant that DeLay
wrote to the oil companies on the energy bill.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:34 PM
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13. 9 billion to oil companies...
for what reason?
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spartan61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:25 PM
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9. I'm so glad that you posted this.
I was beginning to feel like a cheapskate because I don't want to donate. (I did donate to the tsunami victims.) I feel as you do. I have paid my taxes and that money is being used to wage an illegal war in Iraq. I will donate when the tax cuts for the wealthy are rescinded. I will donate when that terrible Medicare Drug Bill is cancelled or when Big Oil decides that their profits are obscene. Until then, this government will have just have to find the resources it needs without my help.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:26 PM
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10. Not to mention that THEY have money THEY could give,

much more than we do. Poppy Bush has TONS of money.
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jbane Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:37 PM
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11. DO Not let politics get in the way of helping people.
How would you like to say
"Bill,you better not ask for one dime from the people."
to a woman standing knee deep in filthy water holding a baby that is hours away from deyhdrating.
She does not care about your damn politics.
Send em a fucking check for petes sake!
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:39 PM
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14. That's the point. FEMA -Homeland Security-First Responders
WHICH WE HAVE PAID FOR are allowing people to stand in contaminated mud and water because "those people" are too dangerous to go and get.

Who and what do you want to donate to.

Tell you what. You donate your dollars.

I;'ll send food and clothes

so that those bastids like Robertson and the Red Cross cant waylay the money, like they have in the past, dear.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:41 PM
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16. That's not politics. It;s common sense. When you see the money going
into someone's deep pockets, dont send money.

The tsunami victims have not received 1/10th of the money. It's going into corruption.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:41 PM
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15. They are essentially trying to privatize FEMA.
Trying to get us to donate the money is just another way of shirking their responsibilities. I'm wondering if FEMA can even be salvaged after all this. Who's going to trust them ever again? They've lowered expectations on what FEMA is capable of now.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:44 PM
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17. First Responders, my ass. They took the buses for themselves
and refused to go in to get people - FEMA refused to send them, cuase First Responders were more important than the people who were 3/4 drowned already.

God bless New York Cops and Fireman. Now THAT is First Responders
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:46 PM
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19. The Top Heavy Society "It's a lot of hard work...patience and resolve"
You can have a democracy or great wealth, but you cannot have both--
Louis Brandeis

Bush chose great wealth. We'll be paying for that choice.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:48 PM
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20. this thread should be nominated...it's informative.
:)
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:50 PM
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21. My money is in my gas tank Bush, no thanks to you
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