Tucker Carlson is making a little bit more sense...maybe because

he is sweltering in NOLA in a polo shirt and the bowtie isn't cutting off the circulation to his brain.

Either that, or his smug preppie ass has been humbled by what he is seeing when he goes out to get his piece of the "face-time" pie.

have?

in dignity and it shouldn't happen here in America.

HE actually had to see a dead man up close on the street to realise that the Administration he supports let people DIE.

That's quite a revelation for tucker..I'm so sorry that it had to be this way.

Or is that just an unfounded rumor?

was opposed to the war and continues to be against it. He's a straight-up conservative (remember when THAT was all we had to contend with?), not a neo-con.

I think Rachel Maddow is actually getting through to him.

He was a guest while she filled in for franken last week. He has pretty much always described himself as a Libertarian. He has always been against government itrusion, such as no smoking laws and strikes me as being against marijuana laws.

For the wrong (isolationist) reason. He claims to be a libertarian.

middle of that mess.

I am sorry the conservatives believe in personal responsibility. That means it is that mans fault that he could not survive. I had a Bush supporter tell me that today. They mean that, all those that were "Left Behind" were just lazy and did not drive out and get a motel. That is really what they believe.

How would a person without a car drive out? and how many available
motels rooms do you think there were?

Welcome to DU, Liberal Arkie. :hi:

Many elderly are likely dead- guess they should have wheeled themselves out to their cars....

Welcome to DU, LiberalArkie!

Yes. Some of 'em did have cars. But a car's no good to you as an escape vehicle if you can't afford the gas. Or if you can't afford the repairs to get it roadworthy again.

I've heard that, too. "Yeah, they were so poor. They had cars. They had houses. They were complaining that their cars and houses were underwater." Shit. Some of those "houses" were tenements. Some of those "houses" were little bitty apartments, or ramshackle dumps. I repeatedly heard frantic women in some of the soundbites - screaming about how it was flooded in "the projects." These people didn't have much in terms of decent living conditions BEFORE the storm and the flooding. DAMN, but some people are hard-hearted.

Well, there are conversions happening all over. Make sure you see this one, too:

A must-read letter from Andy Sullivan's blog...(from a Republican)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2059917

There are other remarkable posts and comments and complaints and testimonials of epiphany and redemption on Andrew Sullivan's blog. The scales have fallen from some eyes, alright. I don't know if it'll be enough. My mom's boyfriend is hopeless, but my mom herself is deeply shaken and disappointed in bush - saying "he really let everybody down..."

Maybe it's the beginning of our deliverance...

Hopefully the hostage-hold will be over soon. Another link in Sullivan's blog was to Kevin Drum's "woe is us" piece, to which Sullivan responds by lamenting that we're just "in for three more years of peril" because we don't have a parliamentary system that allows for a no-confidence vote and removal of the offending leader who blew it so bad as to deserve that no-confidence vote. But I submit that, if we start seeing a LOT more of this, the proverbial straw that's now broken the camel's back, we won't have to wait three more years to be rid of this hideous incompetent and one-man Apocalypse machine. We should use this to fire us up, to WIN BACK THE HOUSE IN 2006, and then in January 2007, begin impeachment proceedings IMMEDIATELY.

BTW - (shit, sorry to be so longwinded about this) I was talking to a couple of guys at the bank this morning, and did what I now do with a great deal more frequency: advise whomever it is to "Visualize IMPEACHMENT." I got some hemming and hawing from these two. The same old crap about ... "weeellll, they've known about the levees for years. Clinton was in for eight years....and he didn't do anything." (Not true, incidentally, but hard to explain in 10 words or less.) Finally, I looked both of them, in turn, in the eyes and said "loo, if YOU had performed THIS poorly on the job, would YOU still be working?" And I looked straight into their eyes again. They both looked back at me, and at each other, and then smiled sheepishly and said "NO" - most emphatically and without hesitation. I knew by the looks on their faces that I'd won the point.

I would tell that person that living in American society is a priviledge with RESPONSIBILITIES. I would then tell them they're welcome to go live on an island with goats so they can think of me, me, me 24/7, but if they want to live in American society and accept it's responsibilities, then they need to care a little more about their fellow Americans.

And it would be nice if they would get off their *ss and actually do something instead of standing around and letting people die because they're too sociopathically selfish to care.

that category..but it's strange how this catastrophic tragedy seemingly changed a few bushwa enablers.

Tucker was talking about how almost none of the French Quarter had been "looted". Harry said "Gee, that's not what you guys were saying Thursday and Friday". Harry was pretty disgusted -- he lives in the FQ part time. Tucker then said some looting had taken place -- a bookstore and some convenience stores - for the beer. Tucker has been touched by covering this, but not much.

and couldn't believe it the words he was speaking were actually coming out of his mouth!

I was sure I had him confused with someone else - uncombed hair, almost slovely appearance - imagine my shock when I realized that it was definitely him.

Can't remember exactly what he was saying, it was very late, but I do remember that he was NOT happy and blasting the gov't!

with the church secretary. Gonna turn your head just a little bit. Makes you question what you have always believed was told to you and true.

Enlightenment is "hard work".

He stopped talking and looked off camera, then said sort of under his breath "that's a really big rat there". I'm sure it's a bit different from sitting in a studio (even if it WAS with Bob Novak).

He mentioned that he was in the same shirt as yesterday. Poor Tucker. It will be interesting to see if the change holds in these media people who reported directly from NO & Mississippi in the coming days and months.

who is quoted in NBC News stories and elsewhere (a Lisa Myers investigative piece) as describing his efforts to tell FEMA and the other feds on a scenario for a killer hurricane. Did this last year, war-gaming a calamity that was named "Hurricane Pam," 120 mph winds, levees breaking, NO flooded, survivors clustering on rooftops, no food or clean drinking water, thugs shooting at rescuers, widespread homelessness, devastation, anarchy.

a snip:

"What bothers me the most is all the people who've died unnecessarily," says Ivor Van Heerden, a hurricane researcher from Louisiana State University who ran the exercise.
Van Heerden says the federal government didn't take it seriously.
"Those FEMA officials wouldn't listen to me," he says. "Those Corps of Engineers people giggled in the back of the room when we tried to present information."
One recommendation from the exercise: Tent cities should be prepared for the homeless.
"Their response to me was: 'Americans don't live in tents,' and that was about it," recalls Van Heerden.



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9178501

THIS guy was on as a guest of little bowtie boy. I saw the segment. Van Heerden kept making reference to "...I gave the material to THE WHITE HOUSE..." and "I worked with THE WHITE HOUSE..." and "I kept trying to ask THE WHITE HOUSE..." and "I spent two days meeting with people at THE WHITE HOUSE..." and "we did this with several people from LSU at FOR WHITE HOUSE..." Several times, he specifically and directly cited THE WHITE HOUSE in his complaints that precious little was done until almost too late. He was certain, direct, plain spoken, and not some slick, spinning suit. I think tucker did not like what he was hearing, but was powerless to discount or discredit it. I hope it gives tucker a LOT to think about, and yet another sleepless night. Just like the rest of the neoCON ARTISTS and other republi-CON criminals for whom he's an apologist.