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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:10 PM
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VA man to Jesse Jackson: "You can't bring those types of people here"
Note from B_E_B: This is a MUST READ article. Get a Salon Day Pass if you're not a member and read the whole thing. In this excerpt, Jackson ariives at a shelter in Alexandria with a bus full of 150 people who had been stranded at the New Orleans Airport. With Jackson is U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters, her husband, Ambassador Sydney Williams, chair of the Louisiana Black Caucus Cedric Richmond, and State Sen. Cleo Fields, and Stephen Elliott (the Salon writer of this piece).

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/09/04/bus/index.html

When we arrive, police surround the buses and refuse to let anyone off. "They're treating us like prisoners," Charlie's aunt says.

"You will absolutely not get off this bus," an officer says. When Jesse Jackson gets out of the front car he's immediately accosted by a shelter resident.

"You can't bring those types of people here," the man shouts. "Those are rapists and looters."

"Now hold on," Jesse says. "Get the hell out of here," the man says. The police guard the buses but make no move to stop the man, who seems like he might attack the Reverend. "It's not a race thing," the man continues. "My wife is half-black." He points to a pregnant woman standing nearby. "We don't want your kind. This is a good place."

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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:12 PM
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1. OMG!
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:16 PM
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2. "White's only in the Old Confederacy"
"Save the American Flag, just burn the Konfederate RAG"
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 07:51 AM
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17. Self Delete
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 07:57 AM by SaveElmer
Made an error about where this was
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:16 PM
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3. What "kind"!??!
What had they done, exactly?!?!

Horrible.
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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:16 PM
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4. not the only place this will happen, not by a long shot
five days of demonization? This is the result.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:18 PM
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7. Racist groups have been taking full advantage.
They are out in force, starting rumor campaigns about an increase in crime around the Astrodome and red cross volunteers being raped.

The media gave them the images they needed, and they ran with it.
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 07:58 AM
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18. Not everywhere
This from the far NE corner of Texas/SW corner of Arkansas. Texakana has its share of rednecks, both overt and glossed over in a society veneer, but the list of churches and agencies from both sides of the state line is quite heartening. The big downtown white church (where the Ark Governor used to preach) as well as the huge black church are helping. The big suburban churches on both sides are also pitching in. Good people on all sides of the divides that this misAdministration tries to exploit will ignore their individual differences to help those among us that are in need.


http://www.texarkanagazette.com/articles/2005/09/04/local_news/news/news01.txt
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AbbyR Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:36 AM
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29. I live in the land of Bubbas, and
the churches here are taking in anyone who needs help and comes our way. That's the white churches, and the black churches. They are working together. This is a local effort of all the people, Bubbas or not.

Abby in Southeast Arkansas
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:16 PM
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5. The brilliance of the average american..
U-S-A! U-S-A!
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:06 AM
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23. Or "We Don't Care" "We Don't Care" "We Don't Care"
The truth shall overcome.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:35 AM
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27. I'm sorry. This guy is an idiot. Not an Average American. I'm
an average American. There are millions of average Americans who are pouring their heart and soul into this disaster and who are appauled by the lack of immediate response by our federal governement. How dare you call this ignorant pig an "average American!"
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:41 AM
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30. You gotta admit that Americans ain't been behavin' too good lately
Have you listened to and looked at the things Americans are saying and doing these days?
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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:18 PM
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6. Is this true? Can we get any reporters to leave Condi's church visit
to take a look at this?
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MojoXN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:23 PM
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8. You're only a ni**er if you're black AND poor.
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 08:24 PM by MojoXN
If you have money, you're O.K. though. Then, you're one of the "respectable" ones.

I grew up around racist motherfuckers like this asshole. They totally believe what I wrote above when it comes to black Americans. Apparently, the President feels this way too, if his actions are any indication. Disgusting. Land of the free indeed.

"What're you locked up for?"

"Getting caught in N'awlins durin' th' Hurricane."

MojoXN
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:30 PM
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9. An excellent account of the horrors that these folks are going
through.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 05:55 AM
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10. :SIGH:
:kick:
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aion Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 06:06 AM
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11. Matthew 25
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 06:06 AM by aion
Then the king will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father. Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.

For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, a stranger and you welcomed me, naked and you clothed me, ill and you cared for me, in prison and you visited me.'

Then the righteous will answer him and say, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink?

When did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you?

When did we see you ill or in prison, and visit you?'

And the king will say to them in reply, 'Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me.'

Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, a stranger and you gave me no welcome, naked and you gave me no clothing, ill and in prison, and you did not care for me.'

Then they will answer and say, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or ill or in prison, and not minister to your needs?'

He will answer them, 'Amen, I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me.'

And these will go off to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."
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Z_I_Peevey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 07:07 AM
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15. Thank you for posting this.
What else can be said?
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aion Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 07:09 AM
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16. The previous part about goats
That's the disturbing part. This cacodemon is trying to purge some goats.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:00 AM
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21. That passage has been running though my head all week
And may the goats in this case rot in hell.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:34 AM
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24. Rep. Elijah Cummings quoted it to Bush the other day
at a press conference. Masterful.

That sums it all up, doesn't it?
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 06:24 AM
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12. There is no way to describe the kind of anger this sort of incident
brings up in me. These poor people... Wasn't it Jesus who supposedly said, "What you do to the least of my brethren, you do to me."? Well, that's something I took to heart at a very young age, and I haven't changed my mind yet. Those who shun them, oppress them, injur them, or disrespect them, do the same to each and every American (no matter what color the skin) who desire justice and equality.

What these people have to to MY brethren, they have done to me. Shame on them.

TC
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 06:37 AM
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13. Dudes, this is make or break , it's crunch time in America...
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 06:38 AM by wake.up.america
People need help.

Are you a racist?
Do you care?
Are you a bigot?
Do you put others in front of politics?
Can you rationally think?


We are going to find out.

Take notes.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 06:41 AM
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14. They did not give up and eventually found shelter. That's what matters.
In these situations, you can't take "no" for an answer.
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 07:58 AM
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19. So, was the man a resident or official of the shelter?
Alexandria VA doesn't surprise me. Lot's of FEDERAL EMPLOYEES who are POLITICAL APPOINTEES live there. You get my drift.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 08:29 AM
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20. And now I comprehend the Hot Summer of '68...
and smile wistfully of better days when people had absolutely enough and broke shit. too bad wallflower america hasn't enough life in it to even roll over and whimper.

Jesse Jackson is a far more peaceful person than I. That man's jaw would be broken by now. They can blame it on the video games, if they want. It was those formative years of tetris...
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:05 AM
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22. heres link St Pete times Fl....
we did n't get the Jackson quotes....they "forgot" to put that in the article.


The Rev. Jesse Jackson and U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., tried to deliver the roughly 150 people to the Louisiana National Guard Armory in Rapides Parish, which already was sheltering about 600 evacuees.

The group was turned away by the president of the Central Louisiana Chapter of the American Red Cross. Leeann Murphy said there wasn't enough room at the armory. Then a white man emerged from the shelter saying he didn't want "murderers and rapists" there. He was alluding to reports of rapes and other violence at the Superdome and convention center in New Orleans.

A black woman asked the man how could he assume the people on buses were criminals. It wasn't clear whether the man was staying at the shelter.

more
http://www.sptimes.com/2005/09/05/Worldandnation/Evacuees_hear_remark_.shtml
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:27 AM
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25. Va. woman to racist va. man..... I'll trade you for 14 of them....
20 if there are small children.
We have to find all these people apartments and jobs..... even if just for the short term.
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Southpaw Bookworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:35 AM
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26. NOT Virginia
The cutline and the first paragraph say that this was Alexandria, LOUISIANA.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:01 PM
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32. My apologies, I missed that, and it's too late to edit
Thanks for pointing it out.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:40 AM
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28. I feel like doing exactly the same thing:
From the article, "A woman getting off the bus wraps herself around Jesse Jackson. She can't stop crying. "Thank you so much," she says, burying her face in the Reverend's shoulder. "I've been in the Superdome since Sunday. You have no idea what it was like. Nobody wanted to help us." I wonder if it's relevant to point out that she is white. Most of the people on the buses aren't."

I would not do it, because other people need these leaders more, but I really, really want to.

I heard Jackson speak in Columbus, Ohio after the election was stolen last November - he led the crowd in a chant, "I am SOMEBODY! I am SOMEBODY!" I had not remembered that this is Jackson's signature. It will take generations to undo the damage to the public psyche - obviously, especially our African American sisters and brothers - done by the murderous negligence of the * administration.

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Forward Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:42 AM
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31. the good people of Alexandria, LA
Not that there aren't any -- there are, naturally. But some years ago (1993) I arrived in Alexandria, with one other individual, to protest a NAAWP march (National Association for the Advancement of WHITE People) that was proceeding through the middle of town.

The marchers were a pathetic lot. Nine or ten of them, including (heartbreakingly) a couple kids. We held our signs and they held theirs.

The two of us protesters were arrested as the 'march' turned to pass through a black part of town -- the notion, according to the cops, that they didn't want anybody to be 'provoked'. Or something like that. Ha!

Also, they said the marchers had a parade permit, and we didn't. But we were on the sidewalk --

So they hauled us off in cop cars and dumped us back at our cars, as I remember it.

Anyhow, word of my arrest got out around the local school district where I was teaching, and I got called in to the head of personnel for the Parish school system (a public school; they don't have counties in LA, but parishes). The guy examined me sort of disbelievingly. Then I noticed that he had a David Duke audio tape on his desk, with the label pointing out to be easily seen as such. Just so I'd know where he stood on the matter.

But I got to keep my job, which surprised me.



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