It was all about the Supreme Court

That was my point during the entire '04 campaign. (And the '00 as well.)

My worst fears have come to fruition. Our American people are fucked!

look at the voter turnout both in 2000 and 2004

sometimes we have to hit the bottom before we realize what we have lost

between Dems and Repugs, between Kerry and Bush, etc.

I must have missed that, I never heard anyone here say such a thing.

That's all I'll say, lest I begin a flame war..

there are plenty of people posting here now that say that, and some of them have indicated that their positions haven't changed. It may have been somewhat muted then (relative to now) but I find it hard to believe all of those folks kept their keyboards quiet before the election.

I have spent the morning on another site which seems to be a darling of the "left", looking at articles they put out in the last couple of weeks of October 2004, that trashed Kerry and said people should vote for Nader. (I just searched for "John Roberts" on that site and there were only a very few articles. Hmmm....seems like they don't want to talk much about the Supreme Court...)

I sure hope it wasn't like that here on DU in October 2004, but it's easy for a newbie like me to believe that it could have been.

And perhaps *'s loss of political capital will limit how bad his nominees can be, if some R senators get cold feet. But, I'm afraid that hope is a little dim.

All we can plan on is starting to take it back in 2008. Let's hope the rest (of the good guys at least) stay healthy:

John Paul Stevens Born: April 20, 1920

Ruth Bader Ginsburg Born: March 15, 1933

Anthony Kennedy Born: July 23, 1936

Stephen G. Breyer Born: August 15, 1938

David H. Souter Born: September 17, 1939

It can still get worse.

Stevens is 84 and Ginsburg has colon cancer.

We have to plan for the worst.

I didn't know it was cancer. I'm sorry to hear that (Ok I prob'ly heard before and forgot), not just for the SC aspect but of course it is sad when someone has cancer. (Bucking the apparent trend at DU, I was sorry about it for Rehnquist too.)

so she's probably OK.
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http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/ats/Oct1/

Healthy Lifestyles and Regular Screenings Would Cut US Colon Cancer Morbidity in Half

Colon cancer has been news recently. This summer, Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg sought treatment for abdominal distress and was diagnosed with colon cancer. Ginsburg had surgery in September in an attempt to remove the cancer.

Overall, 62% of Americans diagnosed with colon cancer live at least five years post-diagnosis, still approximately 48,000 people die each year from this cancer. Colon cancer is the second leading cause of cancer death in the country.

The good news: More than half of colon cancers can be prevented through lifestyle changes and routine

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If you're >50, let this be a wake-up call to get your poop chute checked.

I remember because that scumbag Pat Robertson was praying for God to off the more liberal justices..

http://paperfrog.com/blog/archives/000109.php

If Justices Stevens and Ginsburg can hold-on for another three years, so too can I.

the greens in florida in 2000 were too stupid to understand that. They gave us bush and a conservative extremist supreme court that will be around for decades.

Thanks guys.....

almost anything Congress could do on its own (if held in check by a rational Supreme Court).

let's not foget "Jews for Buchanon", southern Dems voting for Bush, a corrupt elections system, and a supreme court firmly in the Bush's pockets.

The only reason I can see for this post is to start a flame war. It is counter-productive, dated, and serves only to divide. Plus it ignores a lot of blame that could be placed elsewhere.

The Democrats have been right there along the Republicans voting through much of the legislation that's been pushed down our throats over the past few years.... most notably the Patriot Act.

Note taken.

This is not the Greens' fault. It's the fault of the election fraud, Supreme Court, Republicans AND Democrats. Throwing blame on the Greens just distracts people from the complicity most Democrats have shown.

in your list of where the fault lies, the Greens escape unscathed.

"It's the fault of the election fraud, Supreme Court, Republicans AND Democrats."

Yup. Everyone you've listed shares some of the blame, I agree. But the Greens? Naaah.. they're perfect. Any claim that they should've known better is poppycock, right?

Uh-huh.

I have been a registered Democrat since 1968.

I am now a disillusioned Democrat.

"He's just not _________ enough for me, I don't think I can vote for him" -- those were aggravating in the extreme. :grr:

Every time I saw one of those threads, I would invariably post, "The judges, the judges, the judges."

Well, now, here we are. :nuke:

I remember telling a group of people that the election is important for three reasons...the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court. This will have a bearing on us, our children, and our children's children.

Some listened...most didn't.

before which I was too young to vote. Voted Democratic, gave money to Dems, especially to Kerry last year, though I preferred Kucinich by far.

And what hath it benefited me?

NAFTA. WTO. With Bill Clinton's blessing.

Iraq, CAFTA, the PATRIOT Act, with the blessing of most "Democrats" in the Senate and House.

And the Dems won't stand up to fight Bush's nominees to SCOTUS, either.