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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:54 AM
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NEW POLL OUT!!!
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 09:55 AM by underpants
No not really. Sorry but I had a question.

It seems to me that the ABC NY Times poll is the only one that has been done since Katrina hit. Isn't that a long time even in normal circumstances? It seems to me that each network and other news organizations pretty much continually do polls (political polls as well as others) so why have we only seen one in the last week plus?

Am I wrong about the frequency of polling? Anyone? Anything?

:think:

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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:55 AM
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1. The ABC/ Post poll only surveyed 501 people. Hardly a poll
plus or minus 4% margin of error
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:03 AM
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5. And It Seems to Have Oversampled R's
Surprise, surprise.
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:24 AM
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7. Got a link to that? n/t
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:15 AM
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9. Do The Math
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 11:16 AM by Beetwasher
They don't give the party make up of the sample or party totals, but you can back calculate using what it should be according to ABC's published methodology. 39% Dem, 35% Repub, 26% Ind.

Using those numbers and a sample size of 501 and the results of the party app/dis breakdown, I get an overall approval of 43% and a disapproval of 47%. Since the ACTUAL poll results are 46% approve and 47% dissaprove, it means they sampled more Repubs than their own methodology suggests they should.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:28 AM
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11. PLEEEEZE! Shrub's TRUE approval ratings have been in the 30's OR lower
in some "Blue" areas for weeks, if not months now.

No way he's anywhere in the 40's except in Wing-Nut world.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:57 AM
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2. There usually weekly polls from several groups, but I think
maybe they weren't done because of Labor Day. That's only MY guess though.

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:58 AM
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4. That could be the reason
I forgot about that.

Okay we'll see but still there usually is something done even if it as a half-a**ed attempt as indicated in post #1
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:58 AM
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3. Good point.
I was thinking along similar lines this morning. They've probably been told by the Rove Spin Machine that polling now would demoralize people and cause havoc in the streets. Because I have a feeling Georgie's numbers are lower than low.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:21 AM
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6. Could It Be The Polster's Were Instructed Not To Poll Until Rove's...
spin machine was in full speed ahead mode?

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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:26 AM
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8. Maybe because they can't find anyone to
Poll him up to the 20's right now? It would cause a revolution for sure. I mean a pitch fork and torch kinda revolution!

I'm frightened right now, this is not my America :(

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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:26 AM
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10. 46% is not good
Giuliani, as useless a fuck as there is, poll numbers went up to 90% during 9/11.
49% ain't shit.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:30 AM
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12. Rassmussen, a RW Pollster, Tracks approval daily
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 11:30 AM by berni_mccoy
Here it is:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Bush_Job_Approval.htm

Rasmussen biases his reports, be sure of that (by selecting a larger conservative base for the poll), but for this site to show a 53-54% DISAPPROVAL of Bush is VERY TELLING.

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:15 PM
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13. 28% say a "good job" in New Orleans
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:18 PM
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14. Great Story, You should read...
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:53 PM
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16. "failure of leadership"
that is hitting them where they live
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:35 PM
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15. Gallup polls roughly weekly

Everybody else whose name is recognizable does so monthly.

I don't think you're going to see what I suspect you hope for, some real crash in Bush numbers. The hard impact looks to me what you see in Rasmussen's sub-polling of strong vs weak Bush support and strong vs weak opposition. This recent idiocy has had some hollowing out effect of support- shot a lot of the Red State hero mythology to hell, moved the Believers from subjective to objective reasons to prop him up.

For some serious giving up DoltBoy, who owns all the benefit of the doubt that Clinton never got, that's contingent on policy failure rather than management failure. Collapse of the Iraqi constitution and "freedom" there, Republican screwing with the AMT, DeLay getting indicted, Italy and Britain bailing out of the 'Coalition', another major Al Qaeda attack in the West.
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