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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:49 AM
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Could There Be A Bigger Disaster Waiting In The Wings.....
just listening to Jerry Springer on AAR and a caller said the way they are draining the toxic water from NO - they will 'kill' the Gulf of Mexico.

Are we seeing shortsightedness on the part of this *Admin again.

Are they solving one problem because of the heat that is on them and didn't think that they might be creating even a bigger problem?
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:55 AM
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1. Well... They can hardly leave it there...
And they cannot feasibly treat it.

I simply don't see any alternative to how to deal with that water.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:22 AM
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9. I heard some contamination experts saying that "enzymes" (and other new
treatments) can clean-up the toxicity in water, etc.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:57 AM
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2. Yeah. These bastards still have three years left on their timesheets.
Unless we take back the House next year and start IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS.

Repeat after me, to everyone and anyone you know/see/talk to:

"That's what you get when you vote republi-CON...(sigh)"
"That's what you get when you vote republi-CON...(sigh)"
"That's what you get when you vote republi-CON...(sigh)"
"That's what you get when you vote republi-CON...(sigh)"
"That's what you get when you vote republi-CON...(sigh)"
"That's what you get when you vote republi-CON...(sigh)"
"That's what you get when you vote republi-CON...(sigh)"
"That's what you get when you vote republi-CON...(sigh)"
"That's what you get when you vote republi-CON...(sigh)"

Visualize IMPEACHMENT!!!
Then go DO something about it.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:59 AM
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3. One thought.
Hurricane season ends in November.

Colorado State;s climatologists predict as many as 4 hurricanes for September, 2 of which should be major storms.

That's just September, folks.

Any bets on where the next gulf hurricane will hit?
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:00 AM
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4. The Gulf is already stressed with "dead zones"
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:00 AM
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5. I don'pt know. My son & I were talking about that on Sunday.
They keep talking about how poluted and toxic the water is inside the city now. What are they going to do with it???
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Tanuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:02 AM
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7. Is this possible?
I know nothing of engineering, but would it be possible to build a coffer dam inside the lake to confine what was being pumped out of the city until it could be treated and purified?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:01 AM
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6. oh there WILL be more disasters
these neocon bastards are not done with us yet, not by a long shot
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:18 AM
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8. No. Sometimes the solution to pollution really IS dilution. Besides
most of the water came from the Gulf in the first place and it really isn't all that much more polluted than it was already.
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alkaline9 Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:39 AM
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10. Even if the water is pumped out...
...what about all the toxic water that has seeped into the soil? Isn't that still gonna be too toxic to re-build on top of?

Slightly off topic (the BRACC base closings), Fort Monmouth scheduled to be closed (NJ) would leave land with some toxic residue in the center of a wealthy area. I don't think private construction would be allowed on the land because of the toxic levels in the soil. This has already happened in another affluent area about 10 miles south of this location (Camp Evans).

How will New Orleans be any different? How will they rebuild? Or even be allowed to re-occupy the area if toxic levels aren't first taken care of?


...on to yet another topic, but still answering your question... The bigger disaster (simply because of long term effects) will be Roberts as Chief Justice. Just my opinion.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:12 PM
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11. Well, we just moved after being flooded twice in 6 months -
4 times in the past 9 years and it got worse and more severe each time. We had the same idiot officials telling us it was "just a coincidence" it had nothing to do with over-development and climate changes.

The big disaster waiting in the wings is it is very feasible that another hurricane could strike with similar intensity--and that be an ongoing reality for the future.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:18 PM
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12. I read somewhere last week that there is a section of the Gulf
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 12:18 PM by Totally Committed
the size of Rhode Island that is completely dead anyway. The temperatures of the water killed the coral, the fish, the vegetation -- everything. It's never happened before, and they don't know what caused it (Global Warming, maybe???) But, it's all dead.

So, I doubt that this water, once treated, is going to do much more harm. The Gulf is dying as we speak.

What a disaster this administration has been for the environment, the way of life, and the people of this country.

TC
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mike923 Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:36 PM
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13. The solution to pollution is dilution.*
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SomewhereOutThere424 Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:49 PM
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14. Coming from the north country of New York, Adirondacks
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 12:51 PM by SomewhereOutThere424
I know a body of water the size of lake champlain is continually treated with toxins and, as stated above, enzymes which corrode chemicals aswell as treating chemicals is annually applied to the lake in sections or in whole. This process takes, often, a week or less for treatment to be resolved, atleast for the areas in which I live by. If we're not going to be able to successfully pump everything until the middle of october anyway, which has been stated, treatment SHOULD be the very first course of action.

Consider some facts: hurricanes filled with chemicals that slowly diverge into smaller storms will includes chemicals involving in acid rain and other chemical side effects.

Though some people consider this a matter of science fiction, due to chemicals in my region of lake champlain being dumped there are many side effects. Including multiple headed fish being caught. This may seem like a minor consequence but for toxic animals or fish, or even insects, this is dangerous to not be rid of this immediately. Diluting will NOT fix the problem, only spread it. Even a small amount of toxin can be deadly in some cases, especially to this degree. It will not dilute into the mainstream of the ocean if it sits in the gulf, due to the tidal structure of the gulf to begin with, for a matter of years.

It's extremely important people not ignore this fact and mention it to anyone they can. Senators, governors, anyone who can listen. We are building future disasters which can effect a far greater spectrum of the united states through ignorance, and the fact in the face of a greater disaster people are still finding ways to commit evils.

I know this may sound callous, maybe even conceited, to mention it like this. I cannot stress strongly enough there are many fragile factors in this, not just animals and environment but human beings aswell, which can and will slip through the cracks while the world's eyes are turned to things of greater concern. Though the main concern is huge and SHOULD be looked at, it also increases the severity of the things they will try to get away with.

Anything should be done properly and with a cool head, and the lack of care taken to deal with this disaster thus far is not a justifiable factor to continue doing so. If anyone can refute what I have to say -- then I say this. At the very least it's conducted with a cool head and solution. Is what they're focusing on that, or a simple solution? It should be scrutinized, even if what they're doing can be aided to be the most efficient as possible. Ignoring the handling of this situation is no longer a healthy option for the american people.
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