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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 12:56 AM Original message |
Not all Dems believe that Diebold stole votes by software. I believe |
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rooboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
1. Ok. Then prove to us that Diebold accurately counted the votes. n/t |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 01:14 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Well - we don't yet have the smoking gun that says (by software) the |
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shraby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 01:43 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. If they didn't jigger the results, why is the software |
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cyclezealot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 01:24 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. By law, you have no right to expect your vote be counted.. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 01:27 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Oh - I worry about hand recounts. Look at Florida. I believe in all |
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cyclezealot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 01:35 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Since they are doing the public's business.Q |
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cyclezealot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 09:14 AM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Yes. Apple..Yes-Repugs use all methods to not get out the vote |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 01:16 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. And because it is blind-faith & new technology, & because we |
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cyclezealot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 03:10 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. The GOP is not the one rigging PC voting. |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-05 11:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
30. You can't prove a negative |
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cyclezealot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-05 02:30 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. We don't have to prove they did or didn't |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
2. No one here is "staying home because of Diebold" or telling anyone else to |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 01:17 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. My point is not everyone thinks the theft was there. So get ready |
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formernaderite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 08:18 AM Response to Reply #2 |
15. Why do dem run counties, districts or states use them? |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 11:00 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Because people refuse to believe it has gone this far |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
3. What category do you fall into if you just vote? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 01:11 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I'm not saying we don't have to fight for voter transparency laws. |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 01:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. Fine, punch cards leave records |
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Griffy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 02:31 AM Response to Original message |
11. yea.. and some Americans think we found WMDs.. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 01:19 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. Kerry may very easily have won if the line-ups were not so long & |
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Griffy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-05 09:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. nothing to come together on.. black box voting isnt voting... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 03:39 AM Response to Original message |
12. Touchscreen voting can't help but suppress votes. |
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WePurrsevere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 07:53 AM Response to Original message |
13. My husband is a now retired Tech (ATMs, Computers,etc) Voting software |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
14. There have been too many suspicious numbers.. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 01:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. When compared to "exit polls". The exit polls are not scientific |
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goddess40 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
16. low tech methods were also used |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
19. It is the absence of paper ballots that is distressing |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 01:24 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Yes. I agree with all the fight for paper trails & voter transparency. |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
24. Applegrove - I don't believe in one word you wrote. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 04:15 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. You don't think we have to stick together despite our differing views |
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Fozzledick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-05 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
28. Speaking as a Software Engineer: |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-05 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
32. I believe you're not living in reality. |
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