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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:36 AM
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These words of JFK spoken in June 1963 are so relevant today...
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"First: Let us examine our attitude toward peace itself. Too many of us think it is impossible. Too many think it unreal. But that is a dangerous, defeatist belief. It leads to the conclusion that war is inevitable - that mankind is doomed - that we are gripped by forces we cannot control.

"We need not accept that view. Our problems are manmade - therefore, they can be solved by man. And man can be a big as he wants. No problem of human destiny is beyond human beings. Man's reason and spirit have often solved the seemingly unsolvable - and we believe they can do it again.

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http://www.humanity.org/printview.php?page=jfk_at_american§ionName=voices
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 07:09 AM
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1. Next to a real man and a real President like JFK, bush** looks like
pathetic, ignorant, petulant, poorly spoken, vindictive white trash.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 08:25 AM
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2. Well said. I just find the words and vision of JFK to be so
profound and prophetic.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:04 AM
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3. I just read yesterday in Richard Parker's Galbraith biography
Edited on Wed Sep-14-05 10:18 AM by 1932
a memo that Galbraith wrote to Kennedy during the election in '60 which told Kennedy to emphasize during the campaign that Americans should not settle for "tension, conflict and economic distress at home" or for "life under the nuclear terror, to the idenfinite prolongation of the arms race or to war."

Sound familiar? Republican bread and butter is fear and endless war requiring the strong father to whom we sacrifice our happiness and personal well being (while defense contractors get rich). Democrats offer the opposite: hope and opportunity for all and a better tomorrow where we all do better.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:14 AM
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4. We have a choice. It's the fork in the road. Thanks for sharing the
memo info...I will keep that in my mind.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 03:39 PM
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5. JFK grokked the *MIC threat
and had plans to present his case to the American people. Poppy Bush made certain he didn't get that opportunity.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 04:27 PM
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6. That's the story I got too n/t
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 04:34 PM
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7. At my Alma Mater !!!
Course I was only 2 at the time so hadn't started there yet. :-)
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 04:37 PM
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8. Yeah, I came after him too but I am drawn to him, his story, his
vision, his leadership, his legacy and how he was murdered by his own. That is something that has shaped how I look at my Government.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 05:04 PM
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9. Kennedy stood for reason over superstition and hope over fear
The MIC-intelligence/mob killed him and killed America, IMO.
Today's disaster is just a continuation. Amazing, isn't it that they could kill the American president with hardly a whimper of protest? Think of all the crime and corruption they've pulled off since. No accountability. Why should that change now? We are screwed.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 05:07 PM
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10. Americans threw off the monarchy, ended slavery, and defeated fascism in
Edited on Wed Sep-14-05 05:08 PM by 1932
Europe.

The war in which JFK was a casualty is only the latest against injustice. Like the rest, the people will eventually win it.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 05:14 PM
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11. Thanks for the happy thought
...of course, in the long run we'll all be dead, too. :evilgrin:
Sorry. I'm not feeling very optimistic at the moment. I hope you are right. I hope humanity makes a quantum leap forward soon.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 05:31 PM
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12. The leaps have never been quantum and immediate
Edited on Wed Sep-14-05 05:32 PM by 1932
They've always required a lot of effort, time, talent and patience.

("In the long run, we're all dead" is a Keynes quote about economic analysis. MLK said about social justice that arc of human experience is long, but always bends towards justice.)
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:31 AM
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13. JFK made it through the missel crisis, I think, b/c he didn't panic
He didn't cowar in fear. He didn't give in to defeatist, fatalistic thinking. He had a brain and he used it in conjuction with his courage and vision.

Like Al Gore said recently, "where there is no vision, the people perish."

We must summon our inner virtues and do the right thing. If nothing changes, nothing changes.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:08 AM
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14. Maybe Churchill shd have said, we have nothing to fear but
hopelessness.
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:48 AM
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Why, after re-reading am I thinking..."We need John Edwards"?
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:48 AM
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15. Why, after re-reading am I thinking..."We need John Edwards"?
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