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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:38 PM
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Exit polls don't match official results? This on NPR now!
Edited on Tue Jan-27-04 09:01 PM by mzmolly
??? :shrug:

Per Rich Killian... It's over now? Sorry. They didn't make too much of it, but they sounded befuddled.
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:40 PM
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1. what? more info please?
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:41 PM
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2. With 9% counted Bush leads in the GOP Primary!

28 of 301 precincts -- 9%
Candidate Votes Pct.
George W. Bush (i) 5,326 94%
John Buchanan 64 1%
Richard P. Bosa 61 1%
Robert Edward Haines 56 1%
John Donald Rigazio 50 1%
Millie Howard 26 0%
Michael Callis 25 0%
Blake Ashby 17 0%
Bill Wyatt 15 0%
Tom Laughlin 13 0%
Jim Taylor 13 0%
Cornelius E. O'Connor 11 0%
George Gostigian 8 0%
Mark Dick Harnes 6 0%
John Kerry (write-in) 3 0%
Wesley Clark (write-in) 1 0
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cjbuchanan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:44 PM
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6. So what do you make of that write-in count
Do you think they got the wrong ballot or do they really want them to be the Repug nom?
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:41 PM
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3. Yes, please. What was said?
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:44 PM
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7. with 26% in Dem - Kerry leads
Candidate Votes Percent Winner
John Kerry (D) 21,171 39%
Howard Dean (D) 12,804 24%
John Edwards (D) 6,850 13%
Wesley Clark (D) 6,653 12%
Joe Lieberman (D) 5,213 10%
Dennis Kucinich (D) 806 1%
Al Sharpton (D) 64 0%
Others (D) 315 1%
Precincts Reporting - 78 out of 301 - 26%

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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:14 PM
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15. with 48% in Kerry declared winner = 39/25 over Dean
Candidate Votes Percent Winner
John Kerry (D) 37,615 39%
Howard Dean (D) 24,064 25%
John Edwards (D) 12,023 12%
Wesley Clark (D) 11,818 12%
Joe Lieberman (D) 8,848 9%
Dennis Kucinich (D) 1,324 1%
Al Sharpton (D) 124 0%
Others (D) 546 1%
Precincts Reporting - 144 out of 301 - 48%

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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:42 PM
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4. NPR's general line on primaries is that they stink
They made a point of saying that few IA'ans vote, even if it is record turnout.

They try to make it sound like they're not real elections or that they aren't accurate.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:43 PM
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5. people lie or try to mislead during exit polls n/t
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:54 PM
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10. Well the town that Kerry is declared winning were heavy Dean according to
NPR?
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bbmykel Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:49 PM
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8. One of the indicators of voter fraud
is when exit polls don't match the results.

I haven't heard anyone indicate problems at the polls so maybe some voters just wanted to mess with the media.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:53 PM
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9. Ya I am confused too
MASSIVE disconnect re: pre-election polling which had Kerry up a maximum of 7%, and exit polling which seemed to show the race within MOE. Kerry comes out of nowhere and wins with an aparent 15% margin.

There is something going massively wrong with either exit polling, pre-election polling practices or with the actual election itself.

And before everyone starts... this isn't sour grapes, it's a REAL concern that EVERY SINGLE DEM needs to worry about. On 2 Nov 2004, when polls show Kerry winning 55/45 and then Bush "wins" with 70% of the vote, I doubt you'll think it's petty.
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:57 PM
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11. Absolutely agree...
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:00 PM
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12. Diebold machines in full force???
;) Not taking a win away from Kerry but when the exit polls are that far off, I dunno?
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:24 PM
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17. They're Accuvote optical scan
Manufactured by Diebold.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:01 PM
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13. Couldn't be they lost fair and square?
Now you gotta drag this shit in about voter fraud? If any of the candidates bring this up it will doom them the second they speak it.
No one respects a sore loser.
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MisterC2003 Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:38 PM
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20. Sounds familiar, Bigtree
"No one respects a sore loser."

Just what the * minions say when we complain about Election 2000. What next, "Get over it?"

For the record, I have no reason to suspect election fraud but agree with the general principle that if exit polls differ greatly from the election results, it merits a closer look.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:04 PM
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14. I have been exit-polled 5 times in my life, lied repeatedly each time
Mostly because I hate exit-polls and I want to get the enemies supporters excited by bogus exit polling.
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dfong63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:23 PM
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16. when someone admits lying, is it against the rules
to point out that s/he's a liar?
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:26 PM
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18. I'm a no-good exit-polling screwer upper liar!
I did it for you.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:27 PM
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19. Do they ever?
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