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michaelbmoore Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:39 PM
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What exactly does the Democratic Party Stand For?
If you nominate someone like Kerry who has the same military agenda as Cheney/Rumsfield??? The Democratic Party has failed me and my fellow soldiers and I'm beyond heartbroken. . .I'm despairing for the future of my country. You won't see me at DU anymore.
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:40 PM
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1. Kerry does not have a military agenda.
You've made an error of fact.
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:45 PM
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5. What was his vote on the War Resolution?
?????
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:49 PM
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:52 PM
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8. The "War Resolution?" That is a right-wing misnomer-
Edited on Tue Jan-27-04 08:58 PM by Redleg
an example of how the right has framed the resolution as either a vote for war or a vote against it. The resolution was more correctly to be viewed as a "put pressure on Iraq" resolution. Many of the Dems who voted for the resolution wanted to put pressure on Iraq to allow inspectors to return to check things out. War was meant to be a last resort- the threat of military reprisal was meant to signal that we meant business. Only Bush and his right-wing junta wanted to go to war (okay, maybe Joe Lieberman too).
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DK666 Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:53 PM
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11. HooooWheeeee
Great Ref of the "Framing".
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:56 PM
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14. Are you trying to insult me?
Edited on Tue Jan-27-04 08:58 PM by Redleg
"Framing" happens to be a relevant cognitive process that describes the way issues and arguments are presented so as to manage other's perceptions of the issue.

On edit- okay, maybe you weren't being facetious. I apologize if I offended you by suggesting that.
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DK666 Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:04 PM
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19. No way dude.
I did a huge thread last week to figure out the hot button "framing" words and phrases. Very lively discussion. I got your point and totally agree with you.
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:53 PM
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10. IWR gave the executive branch disarmament leverage.
The inspectors were not in Iraq in October 2002.
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:54 PM
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12. Exactly.
Of course not everyone here at DU will agree with that. That's fine- we liberals don't have a problem with constructive discourse.
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DK666 Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:41 PM
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2. K-
Bye.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:42 PM
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3. Democratic party and DU are different things.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:44 PM
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4. You are surely not
behaving as a soldier.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:14 PM
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22. Don't get it
:shrug:
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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:50 PM
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7. Here's what the Democratic Party is to me:
The Democratic Party stands for nuanced and pragmatic positions, not ideology. We're not ivory tower, we just do what works to help people out, get them jobs, education, etc. We don't promise them irresponsible tax cuts in the hopes that they'll vote for us, and we don't run up huge deficits. We don't use race or sexuality to divide, and we don't pander to the ultra-conservative Christian right.

I think there's a dupe, where I also posted, but this one seems to be getting the responses.
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DK666 Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:52 PM
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9. Oh yea
and as a general rule we are not mean and we dont hate.
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:56 PM
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15. And you base this on???
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DK666 Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:01 PM
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17. IMHO There are
exceptions to the rule and sometimes we use bad judgement. But as a general rule Dems are good people
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 06:32 AM
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23. I agree...
which is why when I see a display like this from somebody who is supposed to be among our "best and brightest", it REALLY pisses me off.
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:56 PM
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13. The Democratic Party stands for the dignity of all
and the right to disagree with others.
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:01 PM
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16. C'mon michael, stick with us.
WHo else is going to help out the veterans? I too am a former soldier.
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DK666 Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:02 PM
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18. He sent me
Personal Correspondance. It was lovely. I really dont think he likes me and Im ok with that.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:10 PM
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20. Dean's never met a bomb he didn't like. Kerry, Edwards, Kucinich
and Clark are the best nominees.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:12 PM
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21. go read some JFK (Kennedy, not Kerry) speechs 4 your answer
that should sum it up nicely
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 06:36 AM
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24. Sorry - the platform of the DNC is clear and does provide for defense...
..and DOES NOT exclude the military.
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Iverson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:27 AM
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25. Which Democratic Party?
There's a Democratic Party that stands for its sources of funding and their interests, and there's a Democratic Party that stands for social justice and related ideas.

If you're heartbroken only now, you haven't been paying attention.
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overground1 Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:36 AM
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26. Beating Bush, and not much else, apparently.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:42 AM
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27. Interesting
i've heard some say that the US deserves what they get and it is going to be a world of hurt. I do not know whether the battle cry of ABB will be enough to demand allegiance from those who see Kerry as selling out to Bush on most everything that mattered in the past 3 years. It really compromises Kerry's ability to challenge Bush---yeah, that really makes him so much more electible.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:51 AM
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28. Safety and blandness
apparently.
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 08:14 AM
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29. Also exit polls
showed most primary voters considered healthcare as their biggest concern. I know this IS important, but more so than our teetering economy and the regime's insane foreign policy. I guess I really am out of the mainstream cause I'm not getting it at all.
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