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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 04:39 PM
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We Need Phil Donahue NOW!
I was completely blown away by the interview of Phil on the O'Riley show...it was unbelievable! I have rarely seen O'Riley so exercised.

WE NEED TO GET PHIL ON THE AIR NOW.

Does anyone know how to contact him? I have googled, etc. without much luck.

Because the tide is seemingly turning, some network could be ahead of the curve in having him back on the air.

Why was he pulled off MSNBC? Was it as the rumors state? That he allowed anti-war positions on his program?

Would someone join me in working on the networks...we need him now more than ever.

-Paige
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 04:40 PM
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1. He was quite impressive.
Never saw anyone handle that fuck O'Reilly like that before.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 04:41 PM
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2. I read Phil was pulled from MSNBC
because they saw how successful FOX was at the time and decided to skew their commentary that way.
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 04:46 PM
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4. Gettin' Close...
TC - it looks as if you'll be hitting the "1000" post mark pretty quick...Nice Job
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 04:44 PM
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3. Actually, I say "Phil Donahue" for president!
Why not? Does anyone know if he has political aspirations?

He really did great with O'Reilly!
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 05:00 PM
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7. That was great. What puzzles...
...me is that Billy could be so foolish as to square off with someone like Donahue in front of the cameras---what'd he think was gonna happen? Maybe we can get Billy pumped up, tell him what a good boxer he'd make, and get him to step into the ring with Mike Tyson. "I know he looks big, Billy, but don't worry, he goes down easy. Here's some ear protectors, thought you might need them. Good luck buddy---Knock 'im dead."

Worth a try?
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 04:48 PM
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5. It was a good appearance by Phil, but don't get too carried away.
He had his own show already, and abysmal ratings were the result.

Just because one guy scores a bunch of points in one game doesn't mean they're your #1 draft pick.

Not that I don't like him.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 05:08 PM
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9. steve you are absolutely WRONG.
Donahue had the highest rated show on MSNBC at the time of cancellation.
It was pure politics. Even with their restrictions they were worried that his show was going to give them the "anti war" label. They wanted to emulate Faux and cheerlead this evil administration.

from wikipedia...

In 2002, Phil Donahue returned to television to host a show called Donahue on MSNBC. Its debut ratings were strong, but its audience evaporated over the following months. In late August 2002, it got one of the lowest possible Nielsen ratings (0.1), less than MSNBC's average for the day of 0.2.
But the show's ratings increased during the lead-up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq when it was the only politically liberal show on television. The show was so popular that it became MSNBC's top-rated show. However, Donahue's producers say that they were continually pressured to "balance" anti-war voices with an equal number of pro-war voices, and then provide a greater number of pro-war voices. Finally, on February 25, 2003, MSNBC canceled the show, citing low viewership, even though at the time it was still MSNBC's number one show.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 07:20 PM
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13. You're right on the ratings, and I apologize for my incorrect statement.
I looked it up. I should have done so before I posted.

Mea culpa.

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 05:00 PM
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6. Grace and confidence under pressure
He was a role model, for sure.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 05:05 PM
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8. Perhaps he's better at being the opponent?!
His show was quite good, but nothing on the par of his O'Reilly appearance--he MASTERED O'Reilly.

What we need is to see him opposing all the RW hacks--more from O'Reilly, Limbaugh, etc. with Donahue as the opposition. Never raised his voice, never got angry--that's what the hacks feed off of. Donahue didn't offer a nibble. to Falafel Bill.

His element is as the collected but passionate opposition. He SMACKED O'Reilly, fer Kiss'sakes and managed to get a beautiful last word in.

He can have his own show--after the Dems take back Congress...
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 05:27 PM
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11. You're absolutely right
Phil is usually so gentle. Think back to his talk show. I don't remember him ever raising his voice to anyone.

I think his appearance on O'Really was a picture of a gentle, caring person pushed beyond his endurance by watching outrage after outrage after outrage.

I also think either he or someone near him did an analysis of Billy's tactics and figure out the absolute best way to take the fight to Loofa-boy. The Falafel Kid was back on his heels for the whole thing (except for the exchange about his nephew). It was brilliant.
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 05:12 PM
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10. Phil showed some true style pushing hard on Bill
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 06:26 PM
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12. That's been my thought for the past 2 weeks....
After catching Donahue pummel Bill on his home court, and watching Dan Rather take the lead on the Hurricane Rita questions when he was a guest on Larry King (leaving Larry sputtering and trying to regain control of the microphone)... I can't help but wonder: Why the Fuck are these guys being benched for mindless Bush Apologists?? These reporters have a proven track record and were at the top of their game when management made the decision to go in a diferent direction. But really... shouldn't someone capitalize on the mistakes of the Faux news wantabes?? Why can't there be a network that has actual talent like Phil Donahue and Dan Rather and Bill Moyers?? Their rateings would be off the charts as the Faux News alternative... why doesn't anyone invest in developing such a network. With 67% of the population disapproving of the direction of this country and the effectiveness of their president... wouldn't the time to act be now?? It just boggles the mind that a no talent hack like Rita Cosby, or Tucker Carlson can get a gig on MSRNC, but giants such as Moyers, and Donahue, and Rather are sidelined for their liberal leanings. What the Fuck is wrong with this picture??

:wtf:
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 12:19 AM
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15. My Exact Thoughts
I couldn't have expressed it any better than you did. Are the networks missing an opportunity? I think they are.

-Paige
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howmad1 Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:50 PM
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18. No accounting for who gets to audition on the casting couch.
:evilgrin:
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 03:02 PM
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19. It will happen; liberal is slowly becoming commercially viable
Who would've thought 18 months ago that many of us would hear Randi, Al, Mike, etc on Clear Channel-owned stations?
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 07:34 PM
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14. I really miss him. Now, instead of Phil Donaghue we get stuck with
Dr Phil :puke:
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:05 AM
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16. Write to MSNBC now
Here's their email address:

viewerservices@msnbc.com
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weiser Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 12:42 PM
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17. Phil for President.....
He'd easily make it to the Senate for starters.


from wikipedia...

But the show's ratings increased during the lead-up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq when it was the only politically liberal show on television. The show was so popular that it became MSNBC's top-rated show. However, Donahue's producers say that they were continually pressured to "balance" anti-war voices with an equal number of pro-war voices, and then provide a greater number of pro-war voices. Finally, on February 25, 2003, MSNBC canceled the show, citing low viewership, even though at the time it was still MSNBC's number one show.



How can the "only politically Liberal show on Television" be taken off the air??? Are we truly living in a Democracy??? What's happening to the Land of the Free.....
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 03:03 PM
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20. Done
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