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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 01:16 AM
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We are being "had".
There simply cannot be enough support for * to even begin to make even the modest poll numbers believable.

Look at the ridiculously LOW level of support for pro-* and pro-Iraq rallies. Look at the ridiculously LOW numbers of people who showed up for that silly Freedom Walk, and even then they were screened and had to be baited with a free Clint concert.

I just don't believe the numbers for * were EVER as high as reported.

It's all a lie, perpetrated by the White House propaganda machine. We are being made to believe he has more support than he actually has, in order to back up the idea that he was elected in the first place and to cover for the fraud.

There is no doubt in my mind, we are being had.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 01:19 AM
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1. i agree. actual bush support must be in the single digits.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 01:20 AM
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2. You're not kidding! They must think we all fell off the turnip truck!
LOL!!! I've suspected that the polls were padding these #'s...looking at the enormous support the anti-war rallies received today--ShrubCo must be crapping their pants. Don't you think?

Before Boxer spoke on the Floor re: election fraud I hung a sign in my window that said...America- You've been had!


Peace.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 01:28 AM
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4. No kidding. I really think it's time to just openly dump on Bush.
Every time I have been doing this lately, the most amazing thing happens. Everyone agrees. Even people I never THOUGHT would.

We have to become more and more vocal. The rally speakers are right. It's time to organize and grow the numbers on the streets and hammering Congress.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 01:30 AM
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6. It's gaining momentum!
:kick:
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Proud_Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 01:28 AM
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3. Unfortunately, I live in a super red county
And still see enough W bumper stickers. I'll admit that the people don't seem as anxious to voice their undying support for these criminals and a few more people seem open to discussion, but so many of them seem to be remaining faithful to the bitter end. I just don't get it!!!!
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 01:30 AM
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5. I think that we all notice the W stickers and exaggerate the numbers.
Edited on Sun Sep-25-05 01:30 AM by Carolab
We "look" for them...I personally do, anyway, like it's some sort of a "gauge".

I think the people driving around without ANYTHING on their cars, like ME, are actively NOT supporting him and are afraid that if they post stickers they'll get vandalized by Freepers.
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 01:48 AM
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9. There are simply a lot of nuts out there
right wing-nuts, that is
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aion Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 01:33 AM
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7. You must know the questions the pollsters use
Edited on Sun Sep-25-05 01:36 AM by aion
Without knowing the actual questions, it is impossible to know how they split the middle, or how leading their questioning was.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 01:47 AM
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8. Worked for Reagan
:evilfrown:
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PatriotMom Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 01:54 AM
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10. Yep I had that discussion with my daughter tonight
after the rally in Phoenix. She said if they said there was 600,000 pro peace protestors then there was probably a million. And just like the election, everyone I knew and those that had not voted ever and those that had not voted for a long time went out and voted Kerry, how did he NOT win? He did win, and the * lost big time by a landslide. Also we know people from AZ that went to DC for this rally. There were more there than the MSM are reporting. No doubt.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 02:44 AM
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11. Honestly, people still buy him.
I've been doing political survey calling (ugh)for two days and there are still people saying Very favorable about Bush.

I have no idea why and I'm not allowed to ask.

The state I've been calling, btw, is California.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 03:00 AM
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13. OMG AQUART
IT MUST MAKE YOU FUME TO HAVE TO LISTEN TO SUCH IGNORANCE
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 03:45 AM
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14. No, it doesn't.
I have a variety of questions, and I get a pretty good idea of the humanity of these people.

Most really care about their citizenship. They make a strong point of voting.

I had one gentleman who was pro-Bush all the way, but believed that abortion was between a woman and her doctor and no one else.

And I had Democrats were supporting the pro-Arnold power grab propositions on the November ballot because they liked the way they sounded. THAT was the ignorance that made me want to scream. Our own people are going to screw us because we haven't found a way to tell them what's going on.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 12:58 PM
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15. celebrity worship is nothing new
I mean, how else could you explain Reagan?
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 02:49 AM
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12. I agree - I live in a fairly red area of my hometown
Though my Kerry signs were stolen and picked up and turned upside down, etc, my impeachbush.com sign has just marked its 32nd day on my lawn, having not *once* been even grazed or disturbed. I have been stopped numerous times and asked where they could get a sign like it.
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