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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 07:41 AM
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How many people in Bill Clinton's Cabinet/Democrat Senators or Congressmen
were indicted for crimes? I know there were tons of "investigations" but how many actual convictions of people in Washington - not the one in White Water from 20 years ago.

My question may not be clear, but I don't know how else to put it. What I am trying to do is compare Clinton/Bush record on indictments in their administrations. Of course Bush has not had $10 million a year wasted on investigating his every move, but I just wondered what the score is - as of now. Bush's record is just getting started.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 07:46 AM
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1. An indictment is not a conviction....so I'm confused by your question
Do you want to know about indictments or convictions?
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 07:48 AM
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2. Well right now DeLay is only indicted. I want to compare apples to apples
If you know the statistics on both, it will be interesting.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 08:38 AM
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3. Cisneros pleaded guilty to misdemeanor and paid a piddly fine
(absurdly, the GOP hack investigating Cisneros is STILL plugging on, wasting taxpayer omney in a vain attempt to dig up some scandal somewhere)...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/30/AR2005093001744_pf.html

Agriculture Secretary Mike Espy was indicted on 39 counts...the jury took less than an hour to throw all 39 counts out. Jurors called the indictments "a bunch of bull" and "the weakest, most bogus thing I ever saw."

http://www.citypaper.com/columns/story.asp?id=2215

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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 12:13 PM
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4. Front-page coverage in The Washington Post on October 1st...
...reminded us that millions of taxpayer dollars are still being spent on -- wait for it -- the investigation of a misdemeanor. See link:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/30/AR2005093001744.html

You will notice that the independent counsel handling the Cisneros matter now suggests that his work will be done in 2006 and that he's been saying he's near completion for several years.

Remember, this is about a misdemeanor.

I think it's time to call the worthless, corrupt Republican Senate and House leadership, isn't it, to tell them to stop urinating away our money on their little vendettas. And do back both Senator Byron Dorgan (D-ND) and Congressman Henry Waxman (D-CA) for calling them on this asinine procedure.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 12:14 PM
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5. Cisneros for going to a football game ...
a misdemeanor.

The gop is the culture of corruption, every time the bastards seize power.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 02:01 PM
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6. To answer your original question...
Edited on Sun Oct-02-05 02:03 PM by CBHagman
...Webster Hubbell (deputy attorney general, if I recall correctly) did go to prison and was later pardoned. Henry Cisneros pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor.

Rep. Dan Rostenkowski (D-IL) went to prison, I believe.

Secretary of Commerce Ron Brown died in a plane crash in the Balkans while being investigated. Of course, the sicko conspiracy nuts went to town on that one.

Attorney General Janet Reno was held in contempt of Congress, which action by Congress Rep. Tom Lantos (D-CA) publicly denounced as "beneath contempt." Despite getting hammered by the press for not pursuing Al Gore concerning fundraising and by the right-wing community for her handling of the Elian Gonzalez matter, Reno remained pretty popular, as I recall.

Agriculture Secretary Mike Espy was acquitted. No indictments came out of the investigations of Alexis Herman or Bruce Babbitt.

Bill and Hillary Clinton had been exonerated of any wrongdoing in a report on Whitewater, but the change of the independent counsel to Kenneth Starr meant a free-floating investigation that extended from one thing to another. People literally spent hours discussing Post-It notes from Vince Foster's brief case. I kid you not.

Contrast all that with what happened during the Reagan administration -- Iran-contra, HUD, etc., etc. And of course the Bush II administration hasn't been subject to any such degree of scrutiny, thanks to the corporate grip on the press corps and the tendency to give Bush a pass on most things. It doesn't help that the GOP controls all three branches of government and believes in go-it-alone policies, period. History will be very, very unkind to the current administration, and probably the Reagan admninistration, once the current Reagan idolators start to lose influence and eventually pass from the scene.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 02:10 PM
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7. Hubbell's was for pre-admin activities unrelated to official conduct and .
in fact, he had been cheating Hillary out of money.

Cisneros is it.

Rostie had his own problems that had nothing to do with Clinton.
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