SCOTUS score: Neocons: 2, Fundies: 0

Once again the real republicans have wisely chosen SCOTUS nominees who will keep Roe v. Wade on life support and power centralized in the White House. CJ Roberts has already supported Bush on his Caribbean gulag, and Miers will undoubtedly be loyal to her long-time friend and client. If they'd nominated a true social conservative and risked overturning Roe, they'd lose a terrific fundraising and wedge issue, and, at the same time, risk alienating about 50 million safety moms who would suddenly realize that their daughters were now very unsafe.

Wake up, fundies: it's never been about Roe v. Wade; it's always been about Bush v. Gore.

you got that right. Her loyalty is to Bush* first and the corporate world she has defended in court for 30 years second.

I always want the Fundies to *demand* an anti-abortion amendment NOW because they have all three branches of government. If they did that, they'd call the WH bluff because "pro life" is the gift that keeps on giving---to the Republicans

Republicans couldn't get elected dog catcher in most places in a post-Roe U.S.A..

They are not in a position to demand anything as you imply. The only thing the fundies did is lose some of the young that might replinish their dying asses. Just because they have 90% of the hate and move like a herd does not mean they can beat a majority when the issue is pressed.

The long-term fate of abortion has been decided. The battle by the fundies to have an interim of anti-choice will exhaust their numbers like the Battle of the Buldge did the Germans. They anti-choice people are outnumbered 2 to 1 and pro-choice will one day become "settled law."

We are a fascist country. These appointments are about economics and power. They are to preserve federal power and expand the power of the executive branch and to see that the wealthy lord over the peasants now that American fascism has matured.

right on the the RNC.

in the end but the issue was why there was so much anger over the appointment---the angriest are the much feted "base" of "values" voters. "Hard shell" fundamentalists are only 18 to 19 per cent of the voter base but they gain up to 20 % more in sociological studies when issues like abortion are manipulated in the right way---mainly those who haven't the time to look closely at claims by the WH and others who "default" to vague "moral values" arguments when in doubt. Add in their kin "the security voter" who wants a "Daddy" to keep them safe above all else and you have plenty to push your candidate to the edge of victory every time.

The thing is, as I've argued in other threads, they are *reliable* voters who are organized and determined. Their anger today was exactly what Digby at Hullabaloo said it was: this was supposed to be their unequivocal award and what they got was a "soft" candidate that they could not crow about but whose intentions relied on parsing out Bush*'s words, relying on that big cross she wore or taking him on faith. They wanted a big moment, they didn't get it, they are angry.

The facilitators of facism (Bennett, Limbaugh, etc) will "come around" within a day or so---the long-term discontent will be housed in the religious right voters who feel cheated.

Because their leaders are not really about Roe v. Wade either; they're about fanning the flames of anger and keeping those contributions coming.

they hint, they skirt, etc. but not one of them have the guts to say the government should force a woman to carry to birth when the woman doesn't wish that. You know why? Women vote.

It has been, is, and will always be this way. The "country club" Republicans are the true base of the Republican Party. You can talk about the fundies all you want, but have you noticed they have gotten virtually nothing out of this president?