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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:35 PM
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"Democrat party??" Oh no you don't, you "Licans"
There are few things that piss me off quite like a Republican or one of their boot-licking toadies calling the Democratic party the "Democrat" party. Not only is it incorrect use of the party's proper name, it's insulting. The Democratic party is so named because it stands for the principles of democracy and the authority that we believe rests with the people (demos, in Greek).

The Republican party believes in the republic, which - using a very oversimplified description - seeks to divide power between the owners of capital and the rest of the people. Both kinds of government are representative. I prefer that my government treat us all equally; Republicans don't necessarily feel the same way.

That said, I still call their party Republican. They may have gone batshit crazy at this point in history but nevertheless, Republican is its proper name.

Today NPR "reporter" John Burnett did a lovely little puff piece on SCOTUS nominee Harriet Miers. I have tried to forget as much of it as possible, but what has stuck in my mind was the phrase, "...the Democrat and Republican parties..."

Son of a bitch.

So that does it. If these assholes want to play games by not using the proper name of my party - the Democratic party, then I say we do likewise. I know a lot of DUers use names like Repuke, Repug, GOPers, etc., but I think it would make more sense to be less abusive and a bit more subtle. Therefore, when a Republican uses the term "Democrat party" in front of me, I will refer to the opposite party as "Licans."

"Lican" - pronounced, LICK'-in - serves two purposes. One, it uses only part of the proper name, which treats the abuser to a taste of his own medicine. Second, the sound of it would certainly be something awful to most Republicans' ears.

A typical exchange could go something like this:
R: Say, Bob, did you hear the crazy talk coming from the Chairman of the Democrat party?
D: Democrat party? Oh, so you must be a Lican! My parents were Licans. Lucky for me, I dumped all that ass- and boot- Lican hypocrisy years ago. Now I vote Democratic.


So listen up, Republicans...the name is the Democratic - not Democrat - party. If you can't get it straight, I would be most pleased to bastardize your party's name.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:36 PM
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1. Email them. I sent an email to Baxter Black once after he did that on NPR
and I got a personal response from him. He literally did not know the difference.
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:48 PM
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If Baxter Black didn't know the difference
...we're in deeper trouble than I thought.

This is NOT a small thing. This is a RW meme that is gaining traction even within the Democratic party.

Remember: Democratic is something people like. That drives the Republicans nuts. They want to neutralize us by taking away what is ours. We are Democrats because we believe in democratic government - government of, by, and for the people. Democratic is who and what we are. We must never forget it nor let anyone else forget it.
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:57 AM
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22. I Love Your Avatar...
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 01:12 AM
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24. Thanx
It's homemade. And yes, it's meant to be insulting. :evilgrin:
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:37 PM
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2. President said it today. Grrrr
I think they like to see us react.
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TheVirginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:38 PM
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3. I think
I think most people, including Democrats themselves, don't care.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:43 PM
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:48 PM
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6. It IS a big issue to many Democrats
Please don't drop by and say it isn't.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:22 PM
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12. It doesn't require a huge investment in time and energy, either.
Is it the new etiquette to decide what's the proper way for the host to be addressed, too?

"Drop by..." :rofl:
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:44 PM
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5. I think
...bullshit.

It's a meme they've been working at for years.

Democratic is a positive word. Democrat is neutral to negative depending on one's point of view. It's being fomented by assholes and it's right wing framing at its worst.

If you don't care, that's your thing. I care pretty damn deeply and I'm not putting up with it.
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 08:58 PM
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17. You think wrong
The use of Democrat party is a quite deliberate and conscious attempt by the repukes to minimize the Democratic Party.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:51 PM
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8. Yea the son of a bitch did didn't he
I remember hearing that on the way to school today and I completely flipped out and started screaming in particular at the rube in the minivan next to me with his big proud "W" sticker..
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:52 PM
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9. I think it's worse than that, MD
The Shrub uses it because he occupies the bully pulpit and more people will hear it. He's renaming our party by osmosis. Democrats in Washington should absolutely not tolerate it and should be actively using the name, Democratic, as often and as loudly as possible.

It is a reflection of our fundamental philosophy. We can't let the bastards get away with renaming us.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:26 PM
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14. I'm not one calling for the Dems to stand up at every slight, but this one
merits their time and attention.

This is a slight on history, civility, and respect. I think it's time to call them out on it--seriously
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:51 PM
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7. I'd call it the "Pube Lickin' Party" ...
Edited on Tue Oct-04-05 06:52 PM by TahitiNut
... except that it might be confused with a pastime I once enjoyed. :evilgrin:

More seriously, these sociopaths show their mean-sprited, adolescent stripes when they engage in such venomous disrespect for the other citizens of this country, refusing even to use their real names. As said in one of my favorite movies, "How can they claim to love America while they show hatred for Americans?"
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:35 PM
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25. Oh, snap!
:rofl:
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 02:58 AM
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29. OMG...
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 02:58 AM by Andromeda
:rofl:
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:58 PM
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10. It's the same as if I called George "Ghengis"
You simply have to refer to people and institutions by their names or you have chaos. What if I started refering to dogs as sheep and monkeys as squid? There is indeed a principle involved here. Now it is possible that he means it as an insult in which case it is technically proper to call something by a negative nickname, but if that is the case, then let's have our DEMOCRATIC politicians call him shrub, loser, deadbeat, and drunk.
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:18 PM
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11. how bout just the Republic party
it sounds less like an intentional slur, but it has the same effect
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Extend a Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:22 PM
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13. that annoys me too...lets call them publicans
Main Entry: pub·li·can
Pronunciation: 'p&-bli-k&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old French, from Latin publicanus tax farmer, from publicum public revenue, from neuter of publicus
1 a : a Jewish tax collector for the ancient Romans b : a collector of taxes or tribute
2 chiefly British : the licensee of a public house
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:30 AM
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19. That's probably a better one
More civil, etc. However, "lickins" will probably piss them off and cause them to ask in a whiny voice, "Why are you calling me that?"

Then I get to tell them what I think of their attempt at ruining the great name of my party. Bliss.
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Meeker Morgan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:35 PM
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15. "Democrat Party" is an old Nixonism from way back.
In so far as I habitually call Republicans "pugs", I can't get too worked up about it.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 08:12 PM
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16. Yep. Apparently they;ve been doing it for about 40 years
I think it was Franken who said that.
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:05 AM
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18. If you can't get worked up about it, I feel sad
Edited on Wed Oct-05-05 12:11 AM by Spiffarino
Democratic is a good word. It evokes the kind of mental imagery that encourages people to think in positive terms.

By allowing Republicans to rename our party - the way they turned "liberal" into a dirty word - we will find ourselves having to rename the party.

We must take control before they use their massive echo chamber to make "Democrat" a bad word. I don't think I'm being paranoid, either. They have the money, the power, and the hatred to do the job. Again, think about what has happened to the word, liberal. Remember when it was a good thing? I do.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 01:03 AM
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23. You could be right that it's an old Nixonism...
...but I don't remember hearing it back then, so it wasn't all that common. But in the last five years, we've been hearing it ALL the time, on every talk show and every discussion board. I think what's so galling is that they use it in normal speech that isn't (on the surface of it) meant to be insulting. When I hear "Dimowit" or "Democrap" there is no doubt that it's an insult so I just repond with "Repuke." There is no ambiguity on either side.

But when Shrub uses it in a televised speech, or when Democrats think it actually *IS* the name of the party, then they have almost won the war of words and it's time to draw the line. Then it's time to respond with Publicans, or whatever word will get them to stop using it.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:48 AM
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20.  Me too, me too.
It's meant as an insult. Fuckers.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:53 AM
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21. I suggest the Publican Party.
Not only does it drop just one syllable (like "Democrat Party"), it's also New Testament-speak for "tax collector." That'll drive 'em nuts!!!
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:39 PM
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26. PubeLickers.
:evilgrin:
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:44 PM
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27. I noticed Zogby FINALLY changed it to
Democratic party. I pestered them several times; I'm sure plenty of others did, too.

The only good thing in it is that you can now tell a right winger right away. Their usage gives them away easily. And that goes for those in the press who like to play at not taking sides.
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lavendermist Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:47 PM
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28. It is a deliberate insult and....
harkens back to the time of the "Dixiecrats". :grr:
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:38 AM
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30. It's a well-known strategy by the GOP to distance the Democratic party
from Democracy. They don't want to use "Democratic" when referring to us because Democratic principles are good. They have worked for years to denigrate the "Democrats" and until recently they've been pretty effective. So over the last few years you hear many members of the GOP refer to us as the "Democrat Party" rather than the actual name "Democratic Party".

It pisses me off every time I hear it. It's insulting.

On the plus side, "Republican Party" seems to be turning into a dirty word with people in America. So I try to use "Republican Party" in the same sentence with words such as "criminal", and "incompetent" and "cronies" and "immoral" and "big government" as much as possible. Maybe people will begin to get the message.

I can't wait until 2006.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:08 AM
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31. I call them the 'cans.
You know, the 'can Party. Works for some of us! :-)
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ChipperbackDemocrat Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:42 AM
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32. Just call them what they really are
I call Republicans, Soviets

I refuse any truck, trade or humanity to with them. They are Soviet to the core.

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ChipperbackDemocrat Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:42 AM
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33. message deleted
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 09:48 AM by ChipperbackDemocrat
double post..oops
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