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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:18 AM
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The creepy, David Koresh moment of the speech, was actually gwb
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 10:33 AM by BleedingHeartPatriot
repeating what Zarqawi says to his followers.

I heard it, thought I heard it wrong and then pacoyogi posted it...

The statement that "we will win or pass onto Eternal Light".

I really can't wait to see the transcript from this speech. I think we'll find a lot of code phrases buried in the text. MKJ


Edited the thread title, although, I say again, it's how he said it that sounded like he believed it himself.

That's why some of us here missed the original context. MKJ
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tompayne1 Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:19 AM
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1. uhhh......
That speach is making me more uncomftorable by the moment.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:21 AM
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3. me too!
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:20 AM
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2. YES I heard that... WTF is that supposed to mean?
We'll pass onto eternal light.... I swear we just hear hitler with an applause track.

I was also totally creeped out by him quoting chapter and verse of the Quran too...
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:21 AM
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6. OMG, that's right...yikes, creepy, creepy, creepy. n/t
MKJ
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:23 AM
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9. Probably means Armageddon
The idiots think that if "we" don't vanquish "the infidel," it's time for the Book of Revelations to kick in.

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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:43 AM
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24. Don't forget that Bu$h has Armageddon at his finger tips.
He, who is perennially drunk and religiously insane, has his finger on the nuclear button. That should give any rational person the dry heaves.



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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:27 AM
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30. Well, he claims God told him to invade Iraq.
Hopefully God won't tell him to launch a full scale nuclear strike on China, Russia and North Korea.

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LastLiberal in PalmSprings Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:44 AM
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25. It's a biblical reference
“The Lord shall be unto thee an everlasting light.” Isaiah 60:19

Hen­ry Mor­ley wrote this circa 1826:

Eternal Light! eternal Light!
How pure the soul must be
When, placed within Thy searching sight,
It shrinks not, but with calm delight
Can live, and look on Thee!

The spirits that surround Thy throne
May bear the burning bliss;
But that is surely theirs alone,
Since they have never, never known
A fallen world like this.

O how shall I, whose native sphere
Is dark, whose mind is dim,
Before the Ineffable appear,
And on my naked spirit bear
That uncreated beam?

There is a way for man to rise
To that sublime abode:
An offering and a sacrifice,
A Holy Spirit’s energies,
An Advocate with God.

These, these prepare us for the sight
Of holiness above;
The sons of ignorance and night,
May dwell in the eternal Light,
Through the eternal Love.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:21 AM
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4. Ok, what the fuck? He can 'pass into Eternal Light' all he wants...
I plan to stick around.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:52 AM
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27. That's what I was thinking..
You go into the eternal damn light, weed.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:21 AM
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5. Misinterpretation on your part.
He was saying that was the way the "terr'ist" see things.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:23 AM
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10. Oh, I see. Well, he said it with such enthusiasm I thought he was
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 10:24 AM by BleedingHeartPatriot
promoting it.

MKJ

edited to add: Now, I've really got to see that transcript, or a replay. MKJ
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:28 AM
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15. That's better. I thought for a minute there he really WAS going insane
Is there anywhere to get a transcript of the speech?
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:22 AM
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7. Either win
or go nukular??? Whacko is not stable.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:22 AM
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8. How was the stage set? Four shadowy guys on horses?
The man is a total nut-case. How would any of us be dealt with if we said God told us to do things which killed thousands of people?

It is an indictment on the state of our whole society that this man is NOT in a padded, locked cell wearing a face mask and a coat with really long sleeves....
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Loge23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:26 AM
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12. absolutely
The guy has gone stark raving mad. Utterly lost.
The only positive here is that he's self-destructing before our eyes.
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:23 AM
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11. Oh no
Ah jeez, no.

Hide.

:scared: :nuke:
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:26 AM
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13. see this thread for the backstory
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1831216

Nabil Shaath says: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq …" And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:31 AM
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19. i was thinking the same thing
there's been lots of talk about this speech being his "scared animal turns dangerous" shot across the bow.

he's psychotic. i think he's got coke madness.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:27 AM
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14. Chimp said that's what Al Zarqawi said. nt
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:29 AM
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16. thanks Connie. I missed the context although gwb's delivery didn't
give the impression that he had difficulty with this. He sounded as if he endorsed it.

MKJ
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:31 AM
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18. Imaginary friend or alter-ego Zarqawi?
bush* needs medical care in a special facility with specifically trained car-givers.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:35 AM
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22. LOL, He is certainly getting Zarqawi's message out there. n/t
MKJ
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HuskerDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:31 AM
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17. Makes sense.
If you believe that 'You are with us or against us' then it is obvious that most of the world is against us. Not very good odds.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:32 AM
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20. it's odd you say that
I've been thinking how David Koresh-like he's been seeming lately.

I wonder who is writing his speeches and if they're the same group picking out his butt ugly suits lately. We've had that AWFUL, horribly dated blue suit and now the shit brown one of about the same vintage.

He also looks as nervous as a kid on his first date.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:33 AM
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21. gives that koolaid thing a scary new meaning....
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 10:33 AM by KyndCulture
bottled water, from now on people! :sarcasm:
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:43 AM
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23. The Eternal Light reference may be Luciferic
rather than Ahrimanic.

either way, its tWisTEd
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Loge23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:52 AM
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26. Is * being kept away from sharp objects?
Many on this board agree that the scrub has been looking pretty bad lately. His insane references, such as this thread details, are quite possibly further evidence of a deep psychosis.
Question is, if the Plame flames get close to the WH, will the scrub off himself?
Is this all getting a bit too much for this unqualified phony?
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:02 AM
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28. The Crawford compound is only a few miles from the Koresh site.
Maybe there's some significance in that.
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drb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:09 AM
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29. He may have been referring to the light...
...at the bottom of the bottle. ;)

That doesn't ring any "Christian" bells with me...
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:59 AM
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31. Like most failed leaders in history, moron* has just reached that point of
fatalism. This is scary. All bad leaders suddenly come to the realization that nothing is working, all the assassins (imaginary or real) are at the gates, all friends have deserted them, and everything they do can't change a thing. This is a scary time folks, one of two things happens: either they roll over and become even more ineffectual leaders (if that is possible with moron*) or they do the "going down in a blaze of glory" thing. If he's talking about going into the eternal light, I would bet on the latter.

Fasten your seat belts, it's going to get bumpy from here on out.

colossal racist failure*.
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