The DNC just dialed me for dollar$. "No!", sez I.

I have been giving to the Democratic Party since 1966. Today I said "No!" Not one damned cent more from me until the Dems in Congress and the Democratic Party show some fight. If Harry Reid and the Democratic senators fight the Harriet Miers nomination tooth-and-nail, if the Democrats fight like hell for an independent Katrina investigation, if those elected officials of our party demand anything (Anything! Just raise some holy hell, OK!). When the Democratic Party sounds off like it has a pair, my change purse comes back out. Until then, the DNC can spend their nickle calling someone else. EOR.


Pitifully true.

kill trees to make. Good for you.

And the cartoon is just way too true. They really are just standing there with the ball, going...hhmmmm....now what? :mad:

we've got to stop "enabling" them...

the Pelosi-led boycott of the sham investigation (over the objections of Waxman and others) is in my opinion the boldest action the dems have taken recently.

perjured himself during the 'mock' Repub. hearing that Dems refused to attend. It wasn't reported by any news source at all that Brown had lied under oath about Governor Blanco's request for FEMA aid. Pelosi had the proof and she could have gone very public with it, citing it as a reason for a real investigation.

Didn't Reid suggest Miers to Bush? I mean come on we're a minorty party now. Bush won't choose someone who's liberal. If we filibuster Miers we'll get someone worse like Priscella Owens without democratic imput. And I thought we were fighting for a Katrina Commission, but the repubs out voted us. You have to remember that we are 44 dems and 55 repubs and 1 independent.

Also "demanding" something sounds like a kid who wants his candy.

I say "Opposition" party. Historically, the Opposition party, well, OPPOSES. Especially when the majority party is so, well,.. OUTRIGHT EVIL.

The repukes are self-desctructing before our very eyes, and the Democrats are NOT taking advantage. They should be MERCILIESS. WHERE is the fire in the belly? WHERE is the white-hot, righteous rage?


*crickets*

Call me back when the our leadership grows a spine. Until then not one red cent.

Remember our mantra...NOT ONE DAMN DIME UNTIL YOU GET YOUR COLLECTIVE ASSES TOGETHER.

paper ballots! Let's get real, all we are doing right now is putting on a dog and pony show. The GOP owns our political system and our ballot box. Until that changes we may as well flush the money down the toilet, actually it would be better to give it to someone who is in need because of the administration callousness. How about you pay a Senior prescription drug bill, that would be genuinely helpful.

and I told them why, it was several months ago and I mentioned bankruptcy and torte reform as my reasons for not giving. the person on the phone was pretty rude...

What bankruptcy do you mention here?

I told the person on the other end that I do not contribute to anything over the phone, but if he would send information in the mail I would look it over.

THREE TIMES the person said "I have to know what size donation you are thinking about before I can send anything."

I told him that was none of his business, and then ended the call.

If this is how the DNC intends to fundraise they are in a world of trouble.

mantra. Kerry said in his concession speech, specifically, MONEY was NOT the issue. And he is right all it does is make it look like something is being done. Until the ballot box belongs to the people we are wasting our money and our time campaigning or donating money.

I'm not saying that was who called you, but sometimes 'rude Dem fundraisers' turn out to be GOP scum.

He not only set-up * for a fall on Mier, he stuck the knife in and twisted it. His faint praise of Mier condemned her to a thousand lashes from the wacko right wing. Brilliant jujitsu on Reid's part.

But I basically agree with your feelings about the Dems. Schumer's words the other day turned me off. I am sick and tired of Dems calling liberals "extremists". They won't get a cent from me until they stop doing that and start showing some spine.

I'd like it if the Dems could come up with a leader dumb enough to strongly object to her nomination.

Last summer I volunteered to help the Democratic Party with my time, my car, and my talent. Their answer was, "Give us your money". I was never asked for work. I would have driven people to polls, typed, stuffed envelopes, made calls. "No, thanks," was the reply.

I'll donate at the same level as before. But I will control where it goes. Know whut I mean?

Just wondering. It is good you did not fall for the DNC line of trying to give the people more say in the party by smaller donations. Good you did not fall for that crap, I say. :shrug:

When the Democrats start banding together as a party to stop the GOP's bad bills--the bankruptcy bill capitulation being the most egregious to me (other than the Iraq War resolution, albeit Bush acted in bad faith regarding same)--then I will send money to the party.

Until then, my money goes to Democrats who vote like Democrats or first time candidates who hold the promise of voting like real Democrats.

They are not the wing of the party that is trying to change things. They are the ones I am working hard to undermine as well.

And when you withhold support from the DNC you are enabling the New Dems to keep the power.

...because every Washington Fat-Cat Dem wants the excuse that with Howard Dean at the helm, Democrats are contributing less! They were never happy with his nomination from the git-go.

I make a $100.00 donation to the DNC four months ago, and will continue sending donations to strengthen Howard Dean's vision for the Democratic Party.

As for my former pledge made in anger (when I threatened to vote third party in the coming elections if Kerry didn't force a recount last presidential election), I've chilled since Howard Dean was unanimously voted head of the DNC.

So far, I like what he's been doin', and will continue my support of the DNC...

:hi:

(monthly auto contribution) I'll support Howard and hope the DC Dems start listening 2 him.

The DNC should not be rewarded for not stopping the Bush agenda. You may do with your money as you like, but as for me, no way.

Anyway, Howard Dean thanks you for helping to keep the corporations in control.
:sarcasm:

The problem I had was the way the call was conducted. It was a boilerplate recitation of the evils of the GOP, followed (literally) by the person on the other end asking me to donate $115 (why that amount I do not know).

In all honesty, I do not donate to ANY organizations over the phone, and I told him so. At NO time did I berate him/DNC/Dean/my mother or anyone else. I merely asked for more information.

He WOULD NOT agree to this until I told him what my level of contribution might be.

That's wrong - I'm sorry, but arm-twisting fund raising like this is NOT going to bring me along for the ride.

Perhaps you may want to make the good doctor aware of same. I am very pleased with his stewardship so far, but this fund raising call did him no favors.

They are not falling for the crap the DNC is spewing about wanting to rebuild the party.

Good for you. :shrug:

Thought I could engage in dialogue or something.

My mistake.

Dean good.

DNC good.

Feel better??

I have seen so many of these withholding support from the DNC threads lately that I thought maybe I was at the wrong forum.

No, I agree with you about not supporting anything you don't believe in.

I wholeheartedly believe in what Dean is trying to do -perhaps you misunderstood.

My only problem lies in the NATURE of the appeal - and that, I think, can be corrected.

I honestly think that if I was able to get a tape of my DNC call and send it to the powers that be someone would say "um, I believe that's not quite what we had in mind."

There is healthy skepticism on the part of many here, prediciated on what the DNC has shown in the past. I believe Dean is doing as he said he would - building it from the ground up. It is hard, however, for many to get past the Bidens and the Liebermans and look hard at what is happening.

The folks that DFA has "chosen" to support so far are worthy, and I watch with hope to see who gets the backing for the races in '06.

That said, the fund raising call still sucked. :)

They hire it out. The young man who called me last week was very nice. The caller id said DNC, but he said they were a telemarketer. He really had only talking points.

So actually your gripes here are with 3rd parties who are just fundraising companies.

I donate through the email links and through Democracy Bonds.

I think the outraged "I am withholding support" posts are growing here, though.

i donate mostly to individual candidates and email links as well - I was not aware that DNC solicitations were hired out to rather questionable third parties. Maybe a little tightening of the reins is in order here.

I am curious - I'm wondering if this practice will continue, or will the DNC grow strong enough over time to have an in-house fund raising arm?

As for the "not me" posts - I can understand to a degree, as all of us are waiting for the day when the Democratic Spine makes its long-overdue appearance. At some point, however, pragmatism must enter the equation, since I think most would agree we're at the "from little acorns do large oaks grow" stage of reviving this party. I look at it by asking myself the question "is it better now than it was before?" As long as I can continue to answer yes, then I'm happy.

Sort of. :)

Both parties do that, have been doing that. If they did not they would have to hire more people at the party at a greater cost than if they hired it out.

The DCCC and the DSCC do it as well.

Since we have someone trying to build spine, and we are advocating withholding support....well, that says it all.

I think you should do as you think is best.

instead of trying to herd a bunch of volunteers together-- just hire professional fundraisers.

I've noticed that telemarketers are getting worse employees lately, but they still have a bunch of people manning the phones every day who know how to read scripts and raise cash.

their f-ing salaries or to earn our votes. They sure as hell don't deserve any more of our hard earned dough to use for what? To run some more sissy la la gutless wonders for office? I think NOT.

So when are YOU going to run for office?

short)political party off the ground. Thanks for asking though.

EVERYTHING. And you wouldn't want that, would you?

Good for you for not falling for the trying to rebuild the party crap that they are trying right now. :shrug:

support progressive Democrats, not all Democrats ...

$50 Billion more for Iraq? not with my support ... no thank you !!

I can't see a lot of difference between the parties when it comes to a lot of important issues, both get caught up in their own mostly middle or upper class interests and forget all about the rest of us, and both have caused a lot of damage over the years in their own ways.

I just sent the following letter to the democrats.org web page, I'll edit out the stats but include a link to the page since I posted them in this forum recently. How can we have created a nation like this without the dems, the press, without anyone at all screaming about it? It all happened in silence, we're the single most imprisoned nation in the world and have been for years (http://www.sentencingproject.org/pdfs/pub9036.pdf ) and most people don't have a clue about it.

I’ve heard and read a lot recently about how badly the Republicans have handled race, but I’m not sure that you realize why that hasn’t translated into more positive results for your party.

The following is listed from the web page http://www.prisonsucks.com/ and details in part the nation that your party and your policies helped to create. Your tough on crime votes, your mandatory minimums, your refusal to examine the results of your policies. What we’ve seen in recent weeks is nothing more than the inevitable result of creating a nation like this.

I’d be glad to talk to any of your staff to further explain how we got here, and to connect you with some people who may be able to help focus you on solutions.

http://www.prisonsucks.com/ for the stats included in the letter.

This is Goddess40's mom. I just gave $150 to the DNC. The DNC is not the same as the DLC. Howard Dean heads up the DNC and I have complete faith in him. A lot of the money given to the DNC goes to campaigns of Democrats around the US to help them win. It also goes to efforts to form and help grassroots workers. I am sure the Repukes don't hold back on their contributions to the RNC. Face it, the Dems need money to WIN.

first, why not register your own account on DU ... we love new members ...

as for your comment: "Face it, the Dems need money to WIN", that's certainly true ...

but look what's happening here ... many of us, and believe me it's not just DU, feel very alienated from the Party ... we want to be heard ... we want Democrats to have an open dialog with each and every Democrat on the issues ... we want a rapid end to the war ... we want the Party to explicitly make a case against corporate-controlled government ... until Party reforms are made, many will not contribute ...

i supported Dean for DNC Chair but i have NOT seen a new openness in the Party since he took over ... i don't expect things to change overnight but i have not heard him speak about giving a greater voice to ALL Democrats and i have not heard him talk about polling registered Democrats and incorporating their views into the Party's platform ... and i have not heard him talk about making elected Democrats more accountable to the grassroots ... a majority of us have called for withdrawal from Iraq ASAP ... all Dean has offered so far is "we're stuck there" ... what kind of democracy is that ??

i supported Dean because i thought he was a man of the grassroots ... i'm still hopeful ... and i'm still waiting ... but so far, very little has changed ... Dean has done some good things but the critically needed Party reforms don't seem to be on his radar ...

...and we've been preapproved for it.

I've sent ours in and closed other credit card accounts we never use so that we can continue to support the DNC in yet another way outside our quarterly donations.

Maybe that's an idea?

You know their chairman is always saying he wants to rebuild the party with smaller donations from more people.

Well, I am sure glad you folks in this thread did not fall for that stuff. It is good you are not so easily misled by DNC propaganda.

How dare the DNC ask for money from me when they can finance the party through big corporate donors and other allies of the DLC?
:sarcasm:

...and don't forget that the mainstream Dems in Congress (including Hilary Clinton) have never liked Dean to begin with.

Don't give them the best tool to put Howard Dean down by undermining his job as the chief fundraiser for the DNC. Although he's more moderate than I would've liked, he's a courageous, fearless man and if Al Gore supported him over Lieberman, than he's good people to me.

They called last week asking for a donation, I told them not another dime until this party starts showing some backbone.

I told them I would only donate if the money went towards buying a spine or a pair of testicles for some of our party members starting with those already in Congress.

Cheers!

from that doggone DNC who is trying to take our money. They think if they get all these smaller donations they won't need the corporations as much. Silly people. Glad you did not fall for that spiel. :woohoo:

Until my party as a whole starts standing up instead of knuckling under....no donations to the DNC.

However I do still donate to Durbin and Obama.

Sometimes, just sometimes, NOT donating says more to those in charge.

Cheers!

Tell him like it is. You tell him.
You tell him to quit trying to build up the state parties under the 50 state plan.

Don't let him catapult the propaganda.

Good for you.

:shrug:

:sarcasm:

We all have to do what we think is right, even if we disagree on how we go about it.

Me, I redirect my money and state my opinion...but that's just me.

Cheers!

Stand up for those rights.

We got your point. But what if withholding funds -- even with Dean in charge and I like Dean -- is the only way to get the DNC's attention.

Attention DNC (not just Dean, but all of you): Stop supporting bad candidates and there'll be more money available.

Howard can bring that to the DLC, et.al. as evidence that they're hurting the party, not saving it.

Meanwhile, we can support *specific* Dems.

Just get your names straight. If you want to withhold funds, hey go right ahead.

You have every right. BTW it is the leaders of the DSCC and the DCCC who are doing the candidates. Dean pretty much has to go along with what they say.

Go right ahead and withhold. I have little hope anyway.

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Well, gee, thanks. I am the person advocating for the DNC on a Democratic board. You are advocating not donating to them. Go figure. The times they are a-changing.

:think:

n/t

I reward the Dems when they STAND UP to the bullies.

The repukes might be doing it for us

Some of them are doing great things but there is NOT ENOUGH happening.

I told them that when they started to stand up and represent Democrats again, I'd donate again.

Don't let that new chairman intimidate you into thinking he is trying to get the party rebuilt with smaller donors.

was running the DNC, more worried about courting corporate dollars than actual party building.

Now we have a chair who's going around the country, providing funding to states who have no party org. to speak of, along with staff. He's going on TV and serving it to the Rethugs, keeping a hectic schedule to attend fundraisers to help state and county parties grow and in general doing all the stuff a party chair should.

You can withhold your funding and think you're teaching the Dems in Congress a lesson, I'll keep sending my dollars to the DNC to enable Dean to do what needs to be done and leave funding the DCCC and DSCC to others. That's where it really hurts the lame Dems in Cong.

Julie

Florida's "stand your ground" law took effect recently. It says citizens are not obligated to retreat from attack if they're somewhere they have a legal right to be like a public street.
Killers get immunity from prosecution as long as they don’t shoot police officers.
There is no other state in the union or civilized nation on Earth with this kind of law.
The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence cautions to “not argue unnecessarily with local people" in Florida.
They continue, "If someone appears to be angry with you, maintain to the best of your ability a positive attitude, and do not shout or make threatening gestures."
Governor John Ellis “Jeb” Bush supported the bill, apparently campaigned for it and signed it into law.
Supporters of the law, financed largely by the National Rifle Association claim it makes Florida safer.
Tourists to Florida have registered concern after learning about the law.
In the year 2000 there were over 903 recorded murders in Florida. There is no reliable information on how many of these would not have been prosecuted by the State of Florida if the law had been in place at that time.
Why is Governor Bush backing off on crime?
Is he bringing Texas justice to Florida.
Not quite.
It has been estimated that a murder trial costs the state of Florida $272,796.
Multiplied by 903 Governor Bush is saving the State of Florida about $246,334,788.00 per year by allowing Floridians to shoot people without fear of prosecution.

Absolutely amazing. We fight to get someone to build the party with smaller donors. Then we all come to DU and yell "I am not donating to the DNC until they get spine."

Well, you are giving the power to the corporate Democrats when you advocate that. I fought hard to get a chairman who wanted to hear from the people. I will continue to donate.

I really don't think a lot of people know the difference between the DNC/DSCC/DCCC/DLC/PPI/New Dems.

You'll withhold money from the entire party because of a few jackasses? You think the Liebermans, Bidens, and Nelsons of the party are more deserving of your scorn than the Kerrys, Boxers, Conyers, Deans, and Durbins are of your support? That seems like pretty poor logic to me.

I give as much as I can to Democratic candidates and causes. I gave money after the Roberts vote to reward my favorite Dems who opposed him. Is it any wonder that we're behind the RNC in fundraising? At least the Repukes can keep their eyes on the prize, even if they dislike certain Republican senators.

Dollars for Democrats shares funding with the states. By saying "no" you're keeping money from the state parties that do a lot of the organizing and energizing locally.

I understand how you feel but I'm sad so many are withholding donations right now when we need it most.

It's just sad.

It is a shame.

and we continue to see so many Democrats alienated by, or believing they're alienated by, the Party's failure to represent them ... that's sad too ...

what we need is a better way, a more democratic way, to involve the entire Democratic Party constituency ... posts like this one, whether you agree with the strategy or not, are a clear indication the Party is not on the right track ...

They're getting shafted by this.

For example, the Louisiana and Mississippi Democratic Parties can barely make payroll right now in the wake of Katrina and Rita. The DNC and other state paties are helping out as much as they're able.

I understand the need to come up with a unified message but that's being done as we type. I'm sorry but I can't see how witholding donations is going to help us make the Democratic Party stronger or more unified. It makes me want to cry to read of the strong support NOT donating is getting here.

To retain any decorum I have left I'm going to go fold laundry or something.

Edited for typo.

There is so much rebuilding to do. I hate seeing these threads.

gotta run to a meeting (in my house) ...

i'd like to discuss this with you in greater detail ...

The Democrats still represent me and I want them to win elections so we can get some shit done.

The Greenies, Libertarians, etc. are really starting to get to me more so than the Repukes!

Greenies? Libertarians? i think they should be the least of your worries ... i'm a Democrat and i intend to put my views on the issues ahead of my support for the Party ... i will support only progressive Democrats; not those who continue to support the war ...

that's the way it's supposed to work, isn't it ??? funding and voting based on your views on the issues? or are we supposed to blindly support anyone who's a Democrat no matter what ??? sorry, but that's just not the way it's going to be ...

These kind of posts make me want to vomit, I can't figure out who the enemies are anymore.

I told the telemarketer I wasn't happy with the support they had shown our local candidate running for Congress (virtually none).

But are you campaigning for people to withhold money from the Dem Party?
Just wondering.

I give them money because they use it for voter registration drives annually and voter education. This is really important in the election cycle.

But you can always give to individual candidates or causes. Money greases the wheel.

...yes that's exactly what he/she is doing. I am clueless as to why those kind of posts are welcome here.

I'm beginning to feel hopeless about our party, and it's not because of the leaders either. I don't even know why I come to DU, it's depressing...Just when I'm starting to feel some hope about our chances in 06' and 08', I read this crap. So very frustrating :(

DU, unlike the DLC is not owned by corporations who are given their talking points each day.

I was called and did not give ... let their bloated corporate doners prop them up. When they return to being "for the people" vice "corporate welfare" FIRST, I'll vote for them.

Viva DU!

This post was referring to the DNC...

Are you just trying to piss people off? It's working!

However, what I do find interesting is the personal jabs and sarcastic responses by the "party loyalists" ... it's like you folks are as "touched" to vote ALL democratic as the freepers are to voting ALL Republican.

The Democratic leaning folks are not that simplistic. And yes, a number who are affiliated to the DNC get payola from corporations, no doubt.

The party will have to nearly destroy itself, and purge the bloated politicos, before WE THE PEOPLE will be recognized before corporations.

Have a good one. Best regards, EP

What kind of place is this where you can be insulted for being loyal to the Democratic party?

I thought we were all on the same side? I'm sorry if I don't hate our Democratic leaders as much as yourself.

Why am I not surprised that you "lashed out" once again?

Honestly, these tired old "intimidation" and "sarcasm" tactics are not winning you over new members to support the DNC. And face it, many of our Democrats leaders voted for the bankruptcy bill. What were those senators thinking?!?

No, I have given up expecting a "party loyalist" to be civil to anyone who has not drank their (Dem party above *all* else) brand of kool-aide.

Now that's a shame. :hi:

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...and you are insulting me. You obviously think I'm simple minded for supporting the Democrats...

WTF?

The Senators who voted for the bankruptcy bill are NOT democrats.
They are corporate enablers. Just because someone has a (D) beside their name, don't necessarily make them a democrat in my book.

Hell will freeze over before I vote for Lieberman again.

It's not that simplistic. People who put PARTY above all else are as dangerous on the democratic side as well as the republican side of the aisle.

I hope that clears up your perceptions?

I don't like Lieberman either...but I don't live in Connecticut so I realize that I don't have that much say. There are a few Democrats I'm not fond of but for the most part I still like my party.

Don't donate to the DNC then, it's your money but I personally wouldn't withhold donations because some Democratic Senator (who doesn't even represent my state) did not vote the way I wanted them to...

I would kill for my state to even have a Democratic Senator, alas...I do not. My state barely has any Democratic Reps either!

for our children and the generations who must live here after we've done our dirty work.

More than any ONE party affiliation, I believe that it's important to leave this world a little better before we depart.

But ole' Dubya and his crones are not making that prospect look good.

Again, you are breaking ideas down too simplistic. Truth is, on the average, the Democratic Party has moved too far to the right for me. The right being "corporate loving."

I don't want to jump on a bandwagon until we can rid ourselves of the IMO, DINOs who disgrace our ranks.

Best, EP

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I see people get banned for calling out Democrat-haters on their shit, but the anti-Democratic party coalition is allowed to smear Democratic politicians up and down with no reproach. I've become so disillusioned with this place.

we would only prove to be the FLIP-side of the FR. Yuck! :puke:

there are those of us who get it, understand the process, and are willing to do the hard work to change the party from within rather than lob crap at it from the periphery, understanding there is strength in numbers.

don't despair. you are not alone.

I'm happy to donate money to the DNC as long as Dean is in charge.

I won't, however, donate to the DSCC or the DCCC as long as they refuse to let Dems decide who their congressional candidates should be.

If they have my phone number, they surely have my address and can mail it to me. I like paper trails :)

And for the critics, Dr. D and I give a hell of a lot of money to political causes every year. I have written the DNC with my concerns and I have never, ever gotten a response. But they continue to call for money. I actually want to give, and will, again, give to the DNC. Meanwhile, don't try to lay any guilt trip on me for my decision. I write checks almost weekly to Democratic causes. Like the late John Baldry sang, don't try to lay no boogie-woogie on the king of rock 'n roll. Know whut I mean, Vern?

And they cheat and steal them back.

Unless something is done about voting machines, there is no amount of money that is going to help us in the end.

This link takes you to the Senate Voting record for the Bankruptcy Bill. http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_member.php?vote_id=3480

The following Democrats voted FOR the bill.

AR Jr Senator
Mark Pryor Democrat Y
AR Sr Senator
Blanche L. Lincoln Democrat Y
CO Jr Senator
Ken Salazar Democrat Y
DE Sr Senator
Joseph R. Biden Democrat Y
DE Jr Senator
Thomas Richard Carper Democrat Y
FL Sr Senator
Bill Nelson Democrat Y
HI Sr Senator
Daniel K. Inouye Democrat Y
IN Jr Senator
Evan Bayh Democrat Y
LA Sr Senator
Mary L. Landrieu Democrat Y
MI Jr Senator
Debbie Ann Stabenow Democrat Y
MT Sr Senator
Max S. Baucus Democrat Y
ND Sr Senator
Gaylord Kent 'Kent' Conrad Democrat Y
NE Jr Senator
E. Benjamin 'Ben' Nelson Democrat Y
NM Jr Senator
Jeff Bingaman Democrat Y
NV Sr Senator
Harry M. Reid Democrat Y
SD Sr Senator
Tim P. Johnson Democrat Y
WI Sr Senator
Herbert H. 'Herb' Kohl Democrat Y
WV Sr Senator
Robert C. Byrd Democrat Y

All these Democratic Senators voted to punish American Families, and treat America's families far more harshly than they do Corporations. All these Democrats, the party of the People, voted to punish Americans and side with the Credit Card Companies. Talk about siding with evil. Does anyone bet that the Credit Card Companies handed large checks to the above mentioned Democrats in exchange for the support they received? I know that is what happened to the Republicans, that is a given, but for our own leaders to betray the people is disgusting.

I am not going to cut and paste the long list of Democrats in the House who voted for this bill. I blame them as much as the Senators, however this post is long enough don't you think? I will post the link here http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_member.php?vote_id=3503

When the Democratic Party returns to the roots being the party of the people, when the elected leaders start looking after American Families, instead of big checks from crooked corporations, then I will turn my donations back on.

List of Democratic shame!

The last phone call we got from them my husband took. I heard the conversation from his side and as he tried to explain his position as to why he was not interested in donating I heard him sputter, his face got red and then he looked up and told me they had hung up on him when he refused to tell them how much he would be donating, even after he had told them why he was not interested in donating at this time. He looked at me after the call and said a word that would more likely be coming out of my mouth. He is usually so calm and cool but this really angered him.

We donate to candidates. As far as I am concerned it will stay that way. Neither of us care to be strong armed on the phone by anyone, much less by a party we have supported for years and years and I care for it less here.

See ya, small doner, and any influence you may have had by holding part of the purse strings...

We just got done posting the Democratic Senators who voted FOR the Bankruptcy Reform Act, which holds individuals to a much higher standard than the big Corporation Doners.

Did you notice how our activity and dedication affected the vote? Did you notice how the interest in the People affected the vote? Harry Reid voted FOR the Legislation. Let's see which of our very concerned Representatives voted against us the American People?

AL 5 Representative Robert E. 'Bud' Cramer Democrat Y
AL 7 Representative Artur Davis Democrat Y
AR 1 Representative Robert Marion Berry Democrat Y
AR 4 Representative Mike Ross Democrat Y
AZ 4 Representative Edward 'Ed' Pastor Democrat Y
CA 1 Representative C. Michael 'Mike' Thompson Democrat Y
CA 10 Representative Ellen O. Tauscher Democrat Y
CA 18 Representative Dennis A. Cardoza Democrat Y
CA 20 Representative Jim Costa Democrat Y
CA 36 Representative Jane Harman Democrat Y
CA 43 Representative Joe Baca Democrat Y
CO 3 Representative John T. Salazar Democrat Y
FL 2 Representative F. Allen Boyd Democrat Y
FL 11 Representative James 'Jim' Davis Democrat Y
FL 17 Representative Kendrick B. Meek Democrat Y
GA 2 Representative Sanford D. Bishop Democrat Y
HI 2 Representative Edward E. 'Ed' Case Democrat Y
IA 3 Representative Leonard L. Boswell Democrat Y

Silly isn't it?

KS 3 Representative Dennis Moore Democrat Y
KY 6 Representative Albert B. 'Ben' Chandler Democrat Y
LA 2 Representative William J. Jefferson Democrat Y
LA 3 Representative Charles J. 'Charlie' Melancon Democrat Y
MD 4 Representative Albert R. Wynn Democrat Y
MD 5 Representative Steny H. Hoyer Democrat Y
ME 2 Representative Michael H. Michaud Democrat Y
MN 7 Representative Collin C. Peterson Democrat/Farmer/Labor Y
MO 4 Representative Ike Skelton Democrat Y
MO 5 Representative Emanuel Cleaver Democrat Y
NC 2 Representative Bob R. Etheridge Democrat Y
NC 4 Representative David Eugene Price Democrat Y
NC 7 Representative Mike McIntyre Democrat Y
NJ 1 Representative Robert E. 'Rob' Andrews Democrat Y
NJ 9 Representative Steven R. Rothman Democrat Y
NJ 13 Representative Robert Menendez Democrat Y
NY 2 Representative Steve J. Israel Democrat Y
NY 4 Representative Carolyn McCarthy Democrat Y
NY 6 Representative Gregory W. Meeks Democrat Y
NY 7 Representative Joseph Crowley Democrat Y
NY 27 Representative Brian M. Higgins Democrat Y
OH 6 Representative Ted Strickland Democrat Y
OK 2 Representative David Daniel 'Dan' Boren Democrat Y
OR 1 Representative David Wu Democrat Y
OR 5 Representative Darlene Hooley Democrat Y
PA 12 Representative John P. 'Jack' Murtha Democrat Y
PA 13 Representative Allyson Y. Schwartz Democrat Y
PA 17 Representative Tim Holden Democrat Y
SC 5 Representative John McKee Spratt Democrat Y
SD At-Large Representative Stephanie Herseth Democrat Y
TN 4 Representative Lincoln Davis Democrat Y
TN 5 Representative Jim Cooper Democrat Y
TN 6 Representative Barton Jennings 'Bart' Gordon Democrat Y
TN 8 Representative John S. Tanner Democrat Y
TN 9 Representative Harold E. Ford Democrat Y
TX 9 Representative Al Green Democrat Y
TX 15 Representative Ruben E. Hinojosa Democrat Y
TX 16 Representative Silvestre Reyes Democrat Y
TX 17 Representative Thomas 'Chet' Edwards Democrat Y
TX 20 Representative Charles A. 'Charlie' Gonzalez Democrat Y
TX 27 Representative Solomon P. Ortiz Democrat Y
TX 28 Representative Henry Cuellar Democrat Y
UT 2 Representative Jim Matheson Democrat Y
VA 8 Representative James P. Moran Democrat Y
VA 9 Representative Frederick C. 'Rick' Boucher Democrat Y
WA 2 Representative Rick Larsen Democrat Y
WA 3 Representative Brian N. Baird Democrat Y
WI 3 Representative Ronald James 'Ron' Kind Democrat Y
WV 1 Representative Alan B. Mollohan Democrat Y
WV 3 Representative Nick Joe Rahall Democrat Y

Sixty Eight of our Party's elected leaders all voted FOR the Bankruptcy Reform Act. That is sixty eight who sided with corporations over our people, the American People.
What influence did we have when we were donating? Apparently not enough to be considered as important as the Corporations like Bank One who was one of the big winners thanks to these 68 Representatives. :spank:

Because he's been giving quite a bit of money to the state Dem organizations so they can get their act together. This type of attitude doesn't help with that.

If they can't act like an opposition party, screw 'em.

was thinkin, and told the DNC lady, I would do it for Howard but no one else.
I have been regretting it ever since.


Can I reverse the 125 dollart charge?

I really do wish I had not given in to the old ladies begging for the money. I would like it back.