A legal question, If it were proved that GWB stole the election

Would there be a chance that his supreme court appointments could be negated? in a more general sense, could many of his draconian decisions be rescinded? If this were the case then the best of action for progressives would be to invalidate the presidency rather then go the impeachment route. Also if he was not legally the president then no pardons would be valid as well and the whole bunch of them could rightfully go to prison where they belong.

No.

Now that you have cleared this up for me, jeez.

Cannot be right! Someone pretending to be, say a police officer,
judge, physician would have all their decisions overturned once the fraud was discovered.

A fraudulent Doctor, once uncovered, can NOT go on practicing medicine. Nor can any of his medical "diagnoses" or actions be considered medically accurate, or legal. If we draw the analogy, any patient discovering that the doctor treating (or operating on them) is NOT a legal doctor, has grounds to sue...and most often does.

If taken on the grounds of Theft (of which we have TWO stolen elections)...if for example you rob a bank, granted the money is yours UNTIL the police come and re-claim it and give it back to the bank (and indirectly those whose money it was that was stolen). This administration NOT only stole AT LEAST the last two elections, but also most of our tax payer money, and squandered it by the billions and trillions. Handing it out in "non-traceable" cash form (like candy) particularly in Iraq...and now with the Katrina disaster. And investing stolen Workers' Comp money (which rightfully belonged TO injured workers in Ohio) into rare coins to be money-laundered...AT LEAST in Ohio. And SOON the much-rumored Bird Flu, which Congress just gave BILLIONS in aid to the PENTAGON??? yesterday in case of the flu. Not to doctors or scientific labs to prepare for it, BUT the Pentagon.

Yes, I do believe we are as a nation "hypnotized." We have been robbed again and again in fraulent scandals and schemes by this fraudulent Admin. LEGALLY, ALL laws they've overturned by their illegally elected officials, and ALL the billions they've robbed from us, the taxpayers, should be frozen...reversed...and returned the "rightful" order and owners BEFORE the Fraud began (at least) in 2000.

They will get away with all the corruption, theft, murder, etc.
And they did it right in front of an entire nation, an entire world.
Few care, and those who do are powerless.

and the Constitution doesn't contemplate eventualities like the one you mentioned. Treason, impeachment, trial and removal of a President are given very, very few words.

They were making it up as they went along under time constraints. They could hardly be expected to think of EVERYTHING.

the court and Miers soon to be * is free and clear from ANYTHING!

because any legal recourse has been shut out. I don't have to say what that means to this group. I'm sure you know better than I.

My response is a total guess because I have no idea. But I'm thinking there is no law because it has just never been anticipated before.

And there's a possibility that she will not be approved. Not even the Repugs have full support for her.

...or otherwise just a lot of fake posturing IF she doesn't get confirmed so that they can slip through another, far more to-the-right-of Scalia "justice", and leave the Democrats once again, baffled, and punked.

...so that they can slip through another...

Fine. We still have the fillibuster. Thanks to Reid.

electoral college vote.

the constitution does not guarantee free and fair popular elections, just the electoral vote.

he tampered with the votes that guaranteed Ohio's and Florida's electoral votes.


What I want most of all is:
administration behind bars
administration's family fortunes to be contributed to the treasury


See, so long as Chimpy knows he has his own money, he is happy to gamle with the security of millions of people, he should be held financialy accountable.

It only determines which slate of electors vote, but the electors can vote for whomever they please.

...and I rarely do. :)

I have read that for years on many boards and the best I could come up with was "as I re-call" which was pretty lame, and didn't even come up with the right letters. I don't know why some things bother me more than others, but I'm cheered to have this mystery solve.d

Constitution 101 for Disgruntled Lefties:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4961740

"Draconian" decisions can be negated by legislation, perhaps some by executive order (by a Democratic president, obviously), by a SCOTUS ruling knocking it down...but not by declaring a presidency retroactively void.

inane comments either.

:thumbsup:

Seems to me, this corrupt, and inept administration is running their kind of democracy on "fantasy sequences" with surprising success.

Because we would have to "allow the country to heal", which guaranteed will be the new talking point if that ever happens.

There might be a "fruit of the bitter tree" argument in there somewhere.

I don't care what anyone else says. The Supreme Court is by far the weakest branch of the government and can't stand up to concerted pressure from the other two branches. For example, FDR was pissed at SCOTUS knocking down his depression-era reconstruction plans. So he got Congress to introduce a bill which would increase the number of justices on the Supreme Court. That didn't work, but it was good enough to swing one justice (coincidentally named Roberts) into going FDR's way for the remainder of his term. That reversed the 5-4 pro-business lock in SCOTUS and FDR could get things done.