(Libertarian) Rep. Ron Paul Slams * on Militarized Police State Prep

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2005/121005slamsbush.htm

Republican Congressman Slams Bush On Militarized Police State Preparation

Ron Paul says indictment story is far more damaging than media is portraying, avian flu martial law provisions aimed at gun confiscation

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones | October 12 2005

Congressman Ron Paul has accused the Bush administration of attempting to set in motion a militarized police state in America by enacting gun confiscation martial law provisions in the event of an avian flu pandemic. Paul also slammed as delusional and dangerous plans to invade Iran, Syria, North Korea and China. Ron Paul represents the 14th Congressional district of Texas. He also serves on the House of Representatives Financial Services Committee, and the International Relations committee. Paul appeared on the Alex Jones show yesterday and raised some interesting points about the possibility of imminent indictments of top Bush administration figures. "I think there's a lot more excitement coming and it's not going to be good for the Republicans," stated Paul. "The things that I hear have to do with Karl Rove and Abramoff and that's much much worse than anybody would believe and it involves DeLay as well." And that type of an indictment will be much more serious than the indictment of shifting campaign funds around.....there's some political infighting which could make that really interesting."

On the subject of the police state, Paul stated, "If we don't change our ways we will go the way of Rome and I see that as rather sad.....the worst things happen when you get the so-called Republican conservatives in charge from Nixon on down, big government flourishes under Republicans." "It's really hard to believe it's happening right in front of us. Whether it's the torture or the process of denying habeas corpus to an American citizen." "I think the arrogance of power that they have where they themselves are like Communists....in the sense that they decide what is right. The Communist Party said that they decided what was right or wrong, it wasn't a higher source."

Paul responded to President Bush's announcement last week that he would order the use of military assets to police America in the event of an avian flu outbreak. "To me it's so strange that the President can make these proposals and it's even plausible. When he talks about martial law dealing with some epidemic that might come later on and having forced quarantines, doing away with Posse Comitatus in order to deal with natural disasters, and hardly anybody says anything. People must be scared to death."

Paul, himself a medical doctor, agreed that the bird flu threat was empty fearmongering. "I believe it is the President hyping this and Rumsfeld, but it has to be in combination with the people being fearful enough that they will accept the man on the white horse. My first reaction going from my political and medical background is that it's way overly hyped and to think that they have gone this far with it, without a single case in the whole country and they're willing to change the law and turn it into a military state? That is unbelievable! They're determined to have martial law."

more.....

That's gotta be going some.

I'm celebrating a personal anniversary today -- it's exactly one year since my first post here about Jack Abramoff. At the time, I thought he was just one more Republican scumbag with a checkered past. Little did I dream what gifts he would offer us . . .

:applause:

To celebrate, retrieve it from the archives and re-post it.

:-)

The thread was http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1024263#1041647 and it was actually about "Stolen Honor." I was checking out people who had made political contributions to Charlie Gerow, a small-time Pennsylvania politician who was the publicist for "Stolen Honor," and came across Abramoff's name, which at that time was completely unfamiliar to me. This is what I posted:

Tue Oct-12-04 11:44 AM
Jack A. Abramoff -- another Gerow supporter

http://www.stealthpacs.org/agent.cfm?agent_id=4920
Selected Affiliations:
Bush-Cheney For President (2004)
Relationship: Attained "Pioneer" status, meaning he raised more than $100,000 for the campaign.
Most Recent Year Confirmed in this Role: 2004

http://www.whitehouseforsale.org/ContributorsAndPaybacks/pioneer_profile.cfm?pioneer_ID=834

"Jack Abramoff’s long GOP career includes stints chairing the College Republican National Committee, sitting on the Republican National Committee and heading Reagan lobby group Citizens for America (see David Carmen). This orthodox Jew helped build the political power of the Christian Coalition and Pioneer Ralph Reed. He ostensibly founded the International Freedom Foundation (IFF) in 1985. But South Africa’s truth commission revealed in 1995 that the apartheid regime helped launch the IFF, paying it $1.5 million a year to burnish its pariah image and to smear Nelson Mandela’s African National Congress. After lending apartheid a happy face, Abramoff became a film producer. Working with IFF supporter Duncan Sellars, Abramoff produced Red Scorpion, the 1995 flick about ethnic-cleansing Aryans. Red Scorpion debuted at the time of the GOP’s takeover of Congress and Abramoff became a lobbyist at Preston Gates Ellis & Rouvelas, hitting the jackpot pushing Indian casinos. After he and several partners bought riverboat gambling company SunCruz Casinos in 2000, two of the partners began to feud. SunCruz went bankrupt after partner Konstantinos “Gus” Boulis got run off the road and shot to death in 2001 in a rumored mob hit. Abramoff is active with several other Pioneers in the K Street Project, in which GOP lobbyists harness their clout and that of their clients to advance the GOP’s agenda."


Wow! Republican National Committee, Citizens for America (the Lehrman organization), the South African apartheid regime, film production, Indian casinos, and the K Street Project! All good things wrapped up in one! (And I only quoted about a third of what's there -- the rest is just as well worth reading.)

to hear that show!
They are frickin' determined to have martial law.
edit to add link to one of his speechs on the Floor.
September 8,2005
Why we fight?
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2005/cr090805.htm

Wake the fuck up.

wake the fuck up NOW!

repuke values at work

real republicans best wake up cuz there is no room for dissent in the bush dictatorship

And he didn't take money from ARMPAC or TRMPAC or whatever slush fund the Bugger Tom DeLay had set up.

Thanks

Ron Paul quote:

"To me it's so strange that the President can make these proposals and it's even plausible. When he talks about martial law dealing with some epidemic that might come later on and having forced quarantines, doing away with Posse Comitatus in order to deal with natural disasters, and hardly anybody says anything."

Print the article, distribute as flyers.

Download the article, send to your address book.

Does anyone know if this was aired on C-SPAN or another network?

Notice the photo behind him... Interesting, and his words are so powerful. Shew.

Edited to Add: His words are what many of us have been predicting - our worse fears, even Republicans from TX "get-it, now!."

-- you know their closets have more skeletons than arlington cemetary. they threw everything at iraq. they got sloppy. the craziest thing is that it's actually gonna come to light. some of it, at least.

Paul opined that the government was on a delusional power trip that threatened the country.

"These guys are ready to start a war with Iran, Syria, North Korea or China. They can't possibly do that, it's so insane, we don't have the money, we don't have the troops, we probably don't even have the ammunition."

"But, if they are truly delusional they just might do something that's totally irrational."

(from link above)

Congressman Paul,

Stay out of small planes.

His floor speeches are direct and to the point. He gets lost in the political hype of the beautiful and powerful I guess. How great are those in his district that keep him there in spite of the DeLay's of the party and State!

I went to refresh the page it said the page could not be found. Anyone have any ideas as to what happened to the other thread?

I started that thread..must cuz the souce was AJ but whatever..it LIVES ON in great Patriots like Paine

Has the same article (but from a different source) in the GEN forum

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5045692&mesg_id=5045692

Sorry, but the guy is a nut. A pro-gun, anti-choice, red meat conservative. He supported drilling at ANWR, supported taking pledge of allegiance cases away from the courts, opposed broadening hate crimes legislation to cover crimes motivated by gender or sexual orientation, and opposed greater SEC oversight of the financial markets.

Here's a quote from him: "If we stuck to the Constitution as written, we would have: no federal meddling in our schools; no Federal Reserve; no U.S. membership in the UN; no gun control; and no foreign aid. We would have no welfare for big corporations, or the "poor"; no American troops in 100 foreign countries; no Nafta, Gatt, or "fast-track"; no arrogant federal judges usurping states rights; no attacks on private property; and no income tax. We could get rid of most of the cabinet departments, most of the agencies, and most of the budget. The government would be small, frugal, and limited."

Yep, he's a prince of a guy.

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But thank you for pointing out these other issues.

Many here may not be familiar with Mr. Paul, so your information is valid.

However, Paul, being the libertarian he is, has consistantly AND FROM THE BEGINNING, been against the war against Iraq.

but a Libertarian is better than a Neo-Con at this point. Paul voted against the IWR and has been one of the only Anti-War Republicans out there. I wish he would run for President in 2008 on the Libertarian ballot line.

Which takes us a lot of time if you have two low paying jobs or a handful of obligations.