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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 10:53 PM
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About Al Gore's comment Re: run for Pres. - "won't rule out any
future interest" he said. Did anyone else catch that? If so, did it strike you as odd? I have been thinking about it and wondering what with the current Constitutional crisis what happens when our Democratic process is hijacked? Do we go back to the last duly elected President? Jimmy Carter and others have said that Gore won in 2000. Could Al Gore have a future interest in a Presidency he already won?
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 10:59 PM
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1. Call me crazy, but I'm not ruling him out.
Isn't he just what the country really needed the past 4 years?

Would we be in Iraq?

Would we be in such poor economic condition?

Would civil liberties be an endangered species?

I crack on Al Gore with the best of Dems, but he's a man of political substance, and he's competent.


http://www.webcomicsnation.com/neillisst
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 12:16 AM
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5. Ok, you're crazy
I suppose that the almost perverse fascination so many DU'ers have with Al Gore shouldn't suprise me. After all, even after Adlai Steveson lost two consecutive elections, there were still Democrats who wanted to nominate him a third time in 1960.

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rabid_nerd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 12:36 AM
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6. yeah, but gore didn't lose any...
big diff...

withdrew in 88 - son's accident
won in 2000
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:02 AM
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7. Yes, political substance, competence, intelligence, leadership
and vision too.

Uh, no, no, no and I don't think you're crazy at all; things would be so much better if Gore had been able to take his rightful place.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:06 PM
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2. No.
The president doesn't have to be elected. There's no requirement in the Constitution--each state decides how it will choose the electors to send to the electoral college. All states do so by vote, but there are other procedures that come into play. As we saw in Florida, some states have backup plans in case there is a disputed election.

Once the electors are chosen according to state law (with an assist from 5 members of the Supreme Court in the case of Florida), then the electors actually cast the votes that decide the presidency. Then Congress has to ratify the vote. Then the president is sworn in.

So, bottom line is, Bush was chosen by the electors, legally ratified cy Congress, and legally sworn in. If there was a Constitutional requirement that a president be elected, there might be an issue if the election later turns out to be invalid. But in this case, while the election of the electors was fraudulent, the state still chose its electors (they are ratified by the state, too, somehow, so their selection was validated even though the election was fraudulent), and they voted for Bush. So, there was no Constitutional crisis.

Basically, Gore and the voters got screwed, but the process which selected Bush and swore him into office was legitimate and legal. Now, if it could be proven that he played a hand in fixing the election, we could probably impeach him and Cheney, but that wouldn't put Gore in office.

That's one reason we need an amendment requiring the president be chosen by election. But me and Jesse Jackson Jr are the only ones who seem to care about that. And no one listens to me. :-)
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:55 PM
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3. U.S. News & WR is reporting that major movers & shakers are drafting Gore
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/whispers/archive/october2005.htm

10/13/05
Don't Count Al Gore Out
Al Gore's declaration this week in Stockholm that he doesn't plan to run for president has done nothing to dampen moves by friends and allies to talk him into a 2008 race. In fact, they tell Whispers, it's hardened their belief that he wants to run. But, they said, his comments suggest that he isn't interested in a traditional bid for the presidency: He wants to be begged to run. "I'm not discouraged at all by what he said," said one of the Gore advocates Whispers talked with. This week, Gore was in Stockholm blasting the Bush administration and talking about his political plans. He said: "I have absolutely no plans and not expectations of ever being a candidate again." Allies said that left the door wide open to being wooed. "He doesn't want to be embarrassed and he won't just slowly tip-toe into the race. He wants the whole thing set up for him and that will be easy to do," said our tipster. How? Those advocating a Gore candidacy believe that he already has the issues and a top leadership team in place. But they feel he needs to be convinced that there are enough donors not likely to back Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton that would move to his side to make his bid unbeatable. That, said the advocates, is their first job and they predicted that there are scores of high-tech, media and corporate donors willing to step forward to help Gore.

(more, but not about Gore... )
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 12:01 AM
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4. Now this is what I call good news.
No offense intended at all to Hillary supporters but she's never going to be the president of the United States. Gore can win and he'll remind everyone of the missed opportunity. Yehaaaaaaa...I'm begging!
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