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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 02:45 PM
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Poll: Dean worse against Bush
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 02:46 PM
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1. Dean cannot beat Bush
the average American will not buy the false goods that Dean is selling.
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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 02:49 PM
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3. Universal Healthcare cannot possibly be real
It's a fairytale. Americans won't believe it if they are shown otherwise.

Repeat the mantra.

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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:16 PM
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20. buy Kerry can because of a poll?
If you had as much faith in polls a month ago, you would be calling Dean #1 and Kerry finished.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 02:47 PM
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2. So the Dean supporters are right!!
Dean does energize voters. Unfortunately, they end up voting for Bush*
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 02:50 PM
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7. Plus Dean's UNFAVORABLES are already at 43%
Noone can win anything with unfavorables that high.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:02 PM
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11. That's "energy" for you!!
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 02:49 PM
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4. .
Edited on Wed Jan-28-04 02:50 PM by PROGRESSIVE1
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 02:49 PM
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5. Dean cannot win against Bush. Rove will......
go at him at every angle, exspecially the "Dean is weak on defense" one. Dean will destroyed by this. Clark and Kerry are the credible voices on national security issues. Also, Dean's record as Governor does not add up against what he is telling us now.
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atldem Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 02:52 PM
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9. What does not add up?
I'm not trolling, I'm honestly curious.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 02:50 PM
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6. Dean is too loose a cannon.
His tendency toward emotional outbursts is what scares Americans. Many people, including me, totally agree with his positions, but we are afraid that the * cabal will make mince meat out of him in 3 seconds.
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TLM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:00 PM
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10. Yeah we say we want someone who isn't a scripted politician

who is driven only by polls and focus groups... yet as soon as we get him, we crusify him for being too human. OMG he cheered at a rally, he must be crazy.


I have no doubt Dean would wipe the floor with Bush... but I doubt that he'll ever be able to get to that point because folks will let the media convince them that anybody with passion or excitment can't possibly win.

So folks who want Dean and who like his positions will vote for Kerry because they think he can win since he is boring and scripted and would never show any emotion, let alone passion or excitment. Folks will think that only a corrupt insider can win a system run by corrupt insiders.

Then Kerry will get crushed by Bush because he supported most of Bush's agenda and when folks are given a choice between Bush and a guy who supported Bush... they'll pick Bush.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:14 PM
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19. Can You Mention Even One "Emotional Outburst" that Dean Has Had?
Fiery speeches do not count. His public and private record shows him to be the most even-tempered executive imaginable.

I hate the circular firing squad. With friends like these, no wonder the public has illusions about Dean. And I will NOT do it with Kerry.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:17 PM
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21. Emotional outbursts? Dean?
That's just crazy talk!
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Hoppin_Mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 02:52 PM
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8. Lets's check those numbers in 30 days -nt-
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:02 PM
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12. OK. and I'll bookmark the thread to remind me.
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tryanhas Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:30 PM
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13. That's still good for Edwards
Considering the fact that of all of those people, he is the least known nationally.
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:35 PM
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14. Kerry worries me--to me, he seems like s sure loser....
I hope I am wrong, but I think he is a terrible campaigner and don't understand (nor has it been explained to me) exactly what his "new" appeal is.

To me, he is still the same waffling, IWR-compromised bore he was a month ago,


I hope i am wrong.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:36 PM
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15. Kerry is the only one there who keeps Bush's re-elect numbers under 50%
That is a telling stat.
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:18 PM
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22. not true 1/10-12/04 Bush 54% Kerry 35%
1/10-12/04 Bush 54% Kerry 35%
NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll conducted by the polling organizations of Peter Hart (D) and Robert Teeter (R). Jan. 10-12, 2004. N=1,002 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.1.

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KFC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:32 PM
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23. The Quinnipac poll is more recent
Also larger N and smaller MOE.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:39 PM
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16. Oh, well THAT'S definitive!
One poll! My God, that's all the evidence I need! Especially from Quinnipac University! It's all over!
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KFC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:03 PM
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17. Kerry behind by 4%, Dean by 16%
Guess electability is an issue after all.
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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:06 PM
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18. Of course he can't.....
The media has told us so!
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