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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 09:03 PM
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FRONTLINE: The torture Question on PBS tonight!
About Abu Gareb.
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 09:04 PM
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1. I am watching
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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 09:10 PM
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2. What is the correct spelling of Abu Ghraib?
I've noticed that some journalists almost want to make the second word two syllables. Is there a sound in that language that isn't in English?

I remember one newscaster saying ngra-EEB with the stress on the second syllable. She did it with enough conviction that it made me curious how it was pronounced and what the words in the name of the prison mean.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 09:15 PM
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5. Here's an article on how to pronounce it:
http://slate.msn.com/id/2100290/
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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 11:54 PM
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12. Thank you...that was fascinating.
I also enjoyed the wikipedia article describing the alphabet. The calligraphy is astoundingly beautiful.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 10:01 PM
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11. Most likely it's an accent thing. Just like the way the people in...
...Boston say Linder for Linda.

Or how Libyan President Mouamar Gadafi or Quadafi, Kadafi.

It's all Phonetic.
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 09:13 PM
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3. Any Democrat who voted for this war should NEVER be a candidate for Pres
They just said that the war resolution gave Bu$h unlimited never before seen power in war time.

Kerry...voted yes
Clinton...voted yes

Feingold...voted no
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 09:15 PM
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4. Cofer Black said, "after 9/11 the gloves came off."
:scared:
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 09:35 PM
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9. Coffer Black
is one of the main reasons that we had a 911. It was Black who pushed terrorism to the back burner, and it was Black who refused to share what he had about al Qaeda movements with the FBI.

I watched snips of this program but only snips. The entire thing made me sick. Really, physically revolted. Rumsfeld has a starring role in: The Worst People Ever To Walk The Planet. The man is a sick fuck with no redeeming human attributes. None.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 09:36 PM
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10. good for feingold. . .but this is George Bush's war
Edited on Tue Oct-18-05 09:38 PM by emulatorloo
he wanted it.
he lied to congress.
he lied to the american people.
he did what it took to get it.
he hired gonalez to justify torture.

not democrats

no doubt some dems wanted an invasion (liebermann?)
other dems didn't want saddam to have nukes and wanted inspectors in.

personally I do not want to blame democrats for the george bush's war. Although I guess that what the republicans will want to do in 2006.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 09:21 PM
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6. Aboo grefp?
Aubou gresh? Abu Garep?

How many ways did * say it?
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An Unabashed Atheist Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 09:25 PM
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7. Unacceptable
Bottom line: Torture is never acceptable. Not in any circumstance. Not for any perceived benefit. No torture...ever.
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5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 09:31 PM
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8. Looking at the cells in gitmo and the torture pics,
and hearing these accounts, and knowing our soldiers wait
for Iraqi civilians to gather around a blown up humvee
before bombing them, I cannot blindly say I support the
troops.
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