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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 01:47 PM Original message |
Cindy Sheehan's gift to Hillary |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
1. The polls show that centrists oppose Bush and his war based on lies. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 01:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Hillary is planning for the future |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 01:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. the war was a crime, executed poorly |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Illegal War? |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:15 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. The same law the germans broke when they waged aggressive war |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. The aggression was Saddam's |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:44 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. And he tried to kill my Dad!!!! n/t |
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ReadTomPaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:46 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. LOL well said. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:54 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Please |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Kerry's position as a "flip flopper" cost him the election. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #46 |
62. You're right |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:32 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. I've seen that new meme- that "the left" cost Kerry his bid. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:36 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Clarification |
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Maraya1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 08:12 PM Response to Reply #39 |
99. I don't know what John Kerry's position is on the Iraq war now |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. Are you fucking kidding me? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:58 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Sorry |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:02 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. If it's not a war of defense, it's wrong |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:06 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. And Genocide is irrelevant? (nt) |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:09 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. And the rape-rooms. Dont forget the rape-rooms. |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:17 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. That video of him dancing (cigar in mouth) is too much for words. n/t |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:28 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. You two laugh it up |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:32 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. You're right. I encourage you to go over there and help save the Kurds. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:34 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. As far as swing-voters go, The Kurds can all get caught in a hurricane. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:40 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. Sad but true (nt) |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:52 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. Prefering security/healthcare,etc to wars based on lies is "sad?" |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 05:20 PM Response to Reply #79 |
87. No |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 06:49 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. What YEAR is this and why am I having this conversation? |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 07:39 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. So if WE get attacked because this occupation has made us less safe |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 07:43 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. Less safe in the short term |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 07:46 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Self-delete |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 07:48 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. And how will occupying Iraq make us more safe in the long term again? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:23 PM Response to Reply #92 |
104. It already has made us less safe: the Hurricane Katrina response. |
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Maraya1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 08:18 PM Response to Reply #87 |
100. How do you DO a war on a country to punish a PERSON that is |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:40 PM Response to Reply #51 |
74. It is when it happened a decade or two ago and we didn't lift a finger |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 07:23 PM Response to Reply #74 |
89. Now I understand |
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Maraya1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 08:09 PM Response to Reply #89 |
98. Genocide that happened a decade is are what Saddam is |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:19 PM Response to Reply #26 |
58. Please explain that |
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Dyedinthewoolliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:35 PM Response to Reply #26 |
69. Please |
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ArkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 05:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
86. I always like it when a nation engages in passive war... |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Kofi Annan seemed to think so... |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Response |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. I am not familiar with the oil for food scandal although I noticed |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:47 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. You must be Ward Churchill. ;) |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:03 PM Response to Reply #34 |
47. ..no..che's nephew... hola |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:15 PM Response to Reply #31 |
55. Here you go |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
41. The US was complicit in the Oil for Food scandal |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:01 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. You got that right |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:04 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Saddam in power |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:16 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. Fair enough |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:45 PM Response to Reply #56 |
76. It was secular under Saddam |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:52 PM Response to Reply #44 |
80. Funny you can't find a moral high ground |
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Maraya1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 08:29 PM Response to Reply #44 |
101. The US had already executed successful coups. The Saudis |
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Maraya1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 08:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
96. I remember looking that up. You cannot attack a country that either |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. She is owned by Saudibank--er--Citibank. Forget her. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 01:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Is that when they will finally throw flowers and sweets at us? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:07 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. American public opinion has a way |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. WWII was not based on lies-and recruits signed up in droves. |
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ReadTomPaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:51 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Stunning how people can believe the candy and flowers are still coming |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:51 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Response |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:59 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. I'd rather call Bush a liar than lie and pretend he is telling the truth. |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:14 PM Response to Reply #36 |
54. They didn't "view" the two as linked, Germany and Japan |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:21 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. Hey |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:37 PM Response to Reply #60 |
71. You make a lot of assumptions about |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:45 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Question |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 04:06 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. What crimes??? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 05:14 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. Response |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:48 PM Response to Reply #60 |
78. So...it was enough for us to pick up from the search for bin Laden |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:22 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. Bush was not merely "wrong" he was LYING. n/t |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:45 PM Response to Reply #61 |
77. I guess I should have said that...that's what I meant. |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:21 PM Response to Reply #36 |
59. Hitler declared war on the US |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. When he "masterminded" 9-11. Did you not get the memo? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:31 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. Never |
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Beacho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 04:32 PM Response to Reply #36 |
84. Germany declared war on us after we declared war on Japan |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 07:33 PM Response to Reply #36 |
91. Actually we went to war with Germany becuase they declared war on US |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. I think we will be out of there |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
23. I couldn't disagree more. How can imperialism and death be the |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:43 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. So Saddam is now behind 9-11? Where have I heard that before? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:52 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. See post #24 (nt) |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
50. Why was the first bomb attack on the WTC treated as a crime ending |
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ReadTomPaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:08 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. And when that plane crashed he took a lot the party's future with him. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 07:33 PM Response to Reply #50 |
90. Answer |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 08:05 PM Response to Reply #90 |
97. Shock and awe. It was their plan and it worked. Written on paper and |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 01:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I dont understand how supporting wars based on lies became "moderate." |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. that's laughable |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
29. she's not a rw but only an |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 04:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
82. Clarification |
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Mojambo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
5. She's on the wrong side of a very BIG issue. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. The DLC does not understand the anger generated within |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:29 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Ditto! Ditto! I would go independent before I would go for a war |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
72. she is very very wrong. the american people don't even agree |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
6. And you think that's a good thing? |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
9. Classic triangulation....Hey, it worked pretty damn well for Bill.... |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
10. The only way Hillary can win is by listening to Cindy |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
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DerekG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
15. We "left-wing wackos" just don't like to see kids blown apart |
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mtnester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
40. "...sneak past the rabid left wing base " |
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400Years (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
19. I'll take Cindy over Hillary any day |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
20. as for me, a life-long moderate to liberal democrat |
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second edition (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
48. Cindi needs to stick to just protesting the war ,period. n/t |
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win_in_06 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
83. Like I said in another thread, Cindy = Sista Soulja |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
102. Yep -- Old Hill would be doing her best to stimulate a Third Party |
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DemDogs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 08:53 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. She loses no matter what happens |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
105. Locking |
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