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maxr4clark Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 06:54 PM
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Watch what is happening today people!

Bush/Cheney is using the focus on the Democratic primaries to push the Project for a New American Century's agenda--just what Clark warns us is Bush's agenda in his book, "Winning Modern Wars". And at the same time, the reports about the deficit prove that Bush/Cheney are close to succeeding in Starving the Beast: putting us into such a serious, long-term deficit that we can no longer afford Social Security or Medicare.

1. David Kay is saying no, there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. This is the Bush administration's admission of the truth that Clark and Dean have been pointing to for years. It also sets up Kay as someone unfriendly to Bush. BUT Kay is also saying that Bush is not to blame for taking us to war in Iraq! Kay says he would have done the same thing based on the same administration. What a perfect endorsement from an anti-Bush inspector--except he is pro-Bush. Who has vetted Kay's political decision making? Not the American people. He is not a credible source for such a statement.

2. Kay also says that an unknown amount of Saddam's WMD were moved to Syria--which also has a newly-discovered nuclear weapons program. Surely if Bush was right to go into Iraq, he would be careless not to move against Syria in the near future; after all, Kay has just told us that materials were moved to Syria. WHAT IS HIS PROOF? All we have so far is Kay's word. Bush is laying the groundwork for announcing an offensive against Syria shortly after he wins reelection.

3. Now that the Democratic primaries have focused attention on why we did not continue to pursue bin Laden instead of attacking Iraq, there is an announcement of a new military offensive against al Qaeda near and possibly into Pakistan. Bush used attacking Iraq to distract us from pursuing bin Laden; now he is using pursuing bin Laden to distract us from being bogged down in the process of nation-building in Iraq--and from preparing to move against Syria.

Look at how completely accurate General Clark's testimony was at describing the situation in Iraq, both before the war and after. He is just as correct that Bush/Cheney is executing the Project for a New American Century's agenda. There is no doubt any longer that Clark is right about this: first Iraq, then Syria, and so on through the Middle East.

I don't care who we elect President; we HAVE TO BEAT BUSH. We must stop this runaway elephant! Write your elected officials. Knock on doors. Register voters. Whoever you support for the nomination, be sure in your heart that he is the one you most strongly believe will BEAT BUSH.
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KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 06:57 PM
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1. You are absolutely right!


You are hammering the same points I have been hammering since I started posting on this board. I need to read "Winning Modern Wars"

I firmly believe that Kerry will roll over if elected. I hope I'm wrong, but I think he is Bush-lite all the way.
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pink_poodle Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:01 PM
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2. People believe what they want to believe, not what is the truth........
so if it suits their agendas, then.....................

What Dems need to do is show the disgrace and dishonesty in this type of behaviour. Bring the whole stinking mess into daylight and stop being so polite. Sink to their levels if you have to. But you have GOT to save the world from these lying liars.
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maxr4clark Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:28 PM
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5. sorry, are you saying I'm lying or the **sh administration? n/t
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pink_poodle Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 11:52 PM
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6. The admin. Sorry for the confusion. -nm
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:03 PM
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3. very good assessment
of the situation.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:14 PM
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4. Winning Modern Wars
is a great read. Actually, his description of the actual combat are also worth reading. The problems with the plan and the problems the Rummy's control posed could have resulted in even more lives being lost. Most of all Rummy's need to experiment with the idea of waging war on the cheap with no regard for the numbers killed.

PNAC will really crank up after a bush election...they are merely softening up the masses now.

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maxr4clark Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 05:39 AM
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7. I saw Richard Perle on the Daily Show,
promoting his new book. It has an updated version of the PNAC strategy, listing Syria and Iran as the next two targets. It is in print now, which means the plan has preceded the news regarding WMD from David Kay.

History will record the IWR as the pivotal moment in the shift in American policy from the multilateralism of the era beginning with World War II and ending in 2000, when George W. Bush took office. For whatever reasons, Kerry and Edwards voted in favor of this shift in American policy. Demmos Kucinich and Howard Dean saw the symptoms of a problem, and refused to be duped.

Of the Democratic candidates, only General Clark saw that the IWR was a dangerous shift in American policy, and that the plan had already been released as the agenda of the Project for the New American Century. If you want to know what the Bush administration's foreign policy is--presented as propoganda to sway the American people--you have only to read Richard Perle's new book.

If we don't win this election, America will go too far down the road toward the PNAC agenda to be stopped. If Bush wins, it will be America against the world. Whether it will escalate into World War III, only time will tell.

Write your Senators and other representatives in elected government. If we have any hope of maintaining a democratic form of government that acts on behalf of world concerns, rather than simply to prop up the existing oil-based world economy for as long as possible, the time to act is now. I wrote to my two Senators and to Rep. Jim McDermott, my representative in the House, last night.
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NV1962 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 05:43 AM
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8. More stuff happening today
Check this out:

  • Pelosi rips GOP lawmaker on job offer


    Dem charges 'abuse of power'

    From Ted Barrett
    CNN Washington Bureau


    WASHINGTON (CNN) --The House's top Democrat, Nancy Pelosi of California, strongly criticized a Republican lawmaker Wednesday for his consideration of a lucrative job offer from the pharmaceutical industry -- an offer that came weeks after he helped to negotiate a sweeping Medicare bill that established a prescription drug benefit for America's seniors.

    Pelosi called it "inappropriate" and an "abuse of power" for Rep. W.J. "Billy" Tauzin, R-Louisiana, to consider the offer from the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturing Association (PhRMA), one of the city's most powerful lobbies, to head up the organization. The job would pay him more than $1 million a year, according to sources.

    "Seniors who are wondering why the pharmaceutical companies made out so well in this bill at their expense, need only to look at this example of abuse of power and conflict of interest," Pelosi said at a news conference.

    <snip>

Good call Maxr4clark - we need to keep the eye on the ball.
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