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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 01:13 PM
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"Vice President for Torture"
Edited on Thu Oct-27-05 01:14 PM by dajoki
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/25/AR2005102501388.html?referrer=email

Vice President for Torture


Wednesday, October 26, 2005

VICE PRESIDENT Cheney is aggressively pursuing an initiative that may be unprecedented for an elected official of the executive branch: He is proposing that Congress legally authorize human rights abuses by Americans. "Cruel, inhuman and degrading" treatment of prisoners is banned by an international treaty negotiated by the Reagan administration and ratified by the United States. The State Department annually issues a report criticizing other governments for violating it. Now Mr. Cheney is asking Congress to approve legal language that would allow the CIA to commit such abuses against foreign prisoners it is holding abroad. In other words, this vice president has become an open advocate of torture.

His position is not just some abstract defense of presidential power. The CIA is holding an unknown number of prisoners in secret detention centers abroad. In violation of the Geneva Conventions, it has refused to register those detainees with the International Red Cross or to allow visits by its inspectors. Its prisoners have "disappeared," like the victims of some dictatorships. The Justice Department and the White House are known to have approved harsh interrogation techniques for some of these people, including "waterboarding," or simulated drowning; mock execution; and the deliberate withholding of pain medication. CIA personnel have been implicated in the deaths during interrogation of at least four Afghan and Iraqi detainees. Official investigations have indicated that some aberrant practices by Army personnel in Iraq originated with the CIA. Yet no CIA personnel have been held accountable for this record, and there has never been a public report on the agency's performance.

It's not surprising that Mr. Cheney would be at the forefront of an attempt to ratify and legalize this shameful record. The vice president has been a prime mover behind the Bush administration's decision to violate the Geneva Conventions and the U.N. Convention Against Torture and to break with decades of past practice by the U.S. military. These decisions at the top have led to hundreds of documented cases of abuse, torture and homicide in Iraq and Afghanistan. Mr. Cheney's counsel, David S. Addington, was reportedly one of the principal authors of a legal memo justifying the torture of suspects. This summer Mr. Cheney told several Republican senators that President Bush would veto the annual defense spending bill if it contained language prohibiting the use of cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment by any U.S. personnel.

The senators ignored Mr. Cheney's threats, and the amendment, sponsored by Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), passed this month by a vote of 90 to 9. So now Mr. Cheney is trying to persuade members of a House-Senate conference committee to adopt language that would not just nullify the McCain amendment but would formally adopt cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment as a legal instrument of U.S. policy. The Senate's earlier vote suggests that it will not allow such a betrayal of American values. As for Mr. Cheney: He will be remembered as the vice president who campaigned for torture.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 01:17 PM
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1. Dick Cheney before he dicks you.
He'll also be remembered as the most prominent early victim of Fitzmas. He's going to be out of the WH in short order.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 01:26 PM
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3. Nice legacy you leave behind, dickie boy.
It makes me wonder about the pathology here. Someone who simply MUST throw his weight around in the most egregious and hideous ways imaginable, keeping everything he can in deep, dark, behind-closed-doors secret (everything, mind you, that belongs to US, the people, who paid for it all with our taxes), who lies blatantly in public and on the record, who threatens, bullies, and intimidates his colleagues, and who'd ball-break "enemies" - the same people he doesn't mind having smeared with feces, attacked by killer dogs, dragged by leashes around the neck, degraded in the worst ways their foreign cultures could possibly dread, rape, sodomize, and murder - just what IS IT that motivates an individual like this? Why does he feel he has to go to such heinous lengths to assert his superiority?

Is he, maybe, overcompensating for something?

Did somebody spike his punch during some frat party?

Did some family elder lock him in a closet for days when he was a kid, after sodomizing him with a broken bottle and then leaving him in the dark to starve for a week or two?

WHAT SORT OF INFERNAL DARKNESS DOES HE LIVE IN?

WHAT IN HELL IS HIS MOTIVATION?

This is a VERY VERY DARK Dark Lord.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 01:36 PM
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6. don't tease me...
boy i hope you are correct.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 01:18 PM
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2. That's just because he's evil.
We can't hold that against him can we?
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 01:29 PM
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5. I've said it before. He TRULY puts the "VICE" in Vice President.
What an evil individual, indeed.

Evil incarnate. Malevolent down to the bone marrow. I bet his blood has shaved ice in it. Maybe it's he himself who's the Antichrist. I always suspected it might be bush, but maybe it's dickie-boy.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 01:38 PM
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7. he reminds me ...
of one of those old Soviet premiers.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 01:26 PM
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4. He's more machine now than man....
Edited on Thu Oct-27-05 01:34 PM by marmar
He better watch what he wishes for though. Isn't treason a crime against America? If he's convicted of it, does that mean we can torture him? If so, he's in for a real ass whuppin'.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:06 PM
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8. public flogging...
and more.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:39 PM
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9. He's the Dick in our dictator
Dick Cheney is walking advertisment for gnosticism.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:54 PM
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10. kick
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