John Kerry on ABC World News Tonight.

ABC News World News Tonight will feature John Kerry in its special series "Who is...", reported by Peter Jennings.

Kerry was great. He talked about his childhood at boarding school away from his parents, his military experience in Vietnam, his famous testimony before Congress, the time he met Kennedy on a sailing trip and the Sixty Miinutes appearance when he was asked if he would ever run for President.

He and Jennings seemed to hit it off, I thought.

as he "declares the world safer with Saddam captured" and tout his IWR vote?

Famous Kerry quote that the Kerry that is running for President today seems to have forgotten when he voted for IWR.

No one really knew what. And Kerry did not give the order, Bush did.

Will he explain all his mistakes as president that way?

Millions protested in the streets, half of BushI's henchmen wrote op-ed pieces in NYT and WP warning that what is happening right now would happen if we invaded....all the internet and papers in other countries were abuzz with the lies and distortions.

He wasn't fooled. If anything, he purposefully "allowed" himself to be fooled as a back up position in case things went haywire.

He screwed up big time and he's paying the price.

... so do not describe him as a sycophant.

Kerry surely knew all of the lies, and why all those people were in the street marching against the war. But if it is sufficient, all that is needed for war is a single circumstance, and we did not have a certain answer when that vote was cast. Bush had the ultimate responsibility to do that, and he abused the trust of the nation, including John Kerry, and however wicked Bush is, one cannot readily discount the word of the POTUS.

Bullshit.

I can and do daily!

and that the president shouldn't have to prove anything.

Sheesh. I've never seen you pipe up on those threads.

The one you seem to use all the time when it comes to Dean vs. Kerry?

"attitude" doesn't really quite capture it.

It's more of a simmering disdain (way beyond a mere "attitude")for the smug sycophant who peed his pants on the IWR, is getting toasted for it and when trying to explain how he didn't really mean it, gets interrupted by Saddamorgams and then has to crow about his vote.

You've got to look beyond that vote a little bit. Kerry did not enjoy voting 'yes' on that resolution.

soldiers feel muuuuuch better.

And wasn't Kerry in Vietnam????

Actually, I think I have the right man. Time will tell whose man wins.

Kerry, who I'm sure LONGED to send troops out into danger, and the rest of Congress only gave him an authorization. Bush is the one who is Commander-in-Chief.

This isn't about a contest for the right man here. This is about setting things straight, because I think they need some straightening.

And of course Kerry was in Vietnam. I don't know what you are talking about there.

on use of force, yet you sanctimoniously pop up with outrage for Kerry when Dean was for the same provision that left the decision to Bush.

If you were a Kucinich supporter your outrage would have merit, but Dean's original stance at the time of the IWR vote was the same on the key issue of Bush having the say for use of foce, even if unilateral.

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the film clip was in Black & White! I wouldn't give it any weight.

I hate ABC News since they stopped the coverage of Kucinich, Mosley-Braun, and Sharpton. They are trying to tell us who to vote for!

and actually kinda ironic because he really hasn't been running as if he wants to be president.

to be a demagoguing talk radio host.

not like someone who thinks they're so entitled to it that they don't have to work for it and then takes on the behavior that reeks of the "If I don't get the nomination No One will" mentality.

This has got to stop, Karlton.

Did they or did they not show a tape of Kerry being asked if he wanted to be president where he answered that he didn't?

I saw it with my own two eyes and heard it with my own two ears.

You're just being silly. Find something else to do other than crap on a good Democrat.

But I won't.

And if you watched the show you saw it too. Kerry told a reporter in a taped interview that he didn't want to be president.

I didn't even watch the thing, and I can tell you that didn't happen.

but... he said it.

Ask anyone of his supporters who DID watch it. Gawd! lol

It wasn't a recent clip, but it was a clip of Kerry being asked if he wanted to be president. He said he didn't. I'm not joking.

He _had_ said that he _didn't_ want to be President, not he said he _doesn't_ want to be President. Words mean things, you know, and you should find something more contructive to do.

The clip they showed had Kerry sitting right there saying "I don't want to be president". He was speaking in the present at the time of the interview when the tape was made. If he had of said "I didn't want to be president" it wouldn't have made any sense at all because he wasn't running at that time.

These runs-around get old.

They DID show a clip of Kerry telling a reporter he didn't want to be president. I'm not making it up. Maybe if you go to the ABC news site they will have something about it. It wasn't a recent interview, but it's still going to come back to bite him in the butt if Bush gets to run ads against him.

What you had typed at the beginning of this reply tree is in subtle but significant contrast to what was presented on the ABC News segment. These are the little imprecisions that compound into big ones, and having read many of your posts in recent days, I think you are compulsively drawn towards crapping on John Kerry. So stop doing it, and find something more positive to do on these boards, please.

and I posted.

Listen, if my sarcasm bothers you, just put me on ignore. These posts aren't directed at you. They are directed at those who do the same thing to my candidate. You just needlessly got all frustrated arguing with me for no good reason. I think it's safe to say that everyone here knows I don't like Kerry, and I'm pretty confident that they won't be considering any input I make in deciding whether or not to support him. If they did they'd have to be pretty foolish. Seriously, just put me on ignore because my goal is not to irritate you. My goal isn't to turn anyone off to Kerry. My goal is to make Kerry supporters who constantly attact Dean a dose of their own medicine, nothing more, nothing less. I've tried to stop doing it many times only to see an increase in the same behavior by some of your fellow Kerry supporters.

Again, my advice to you is to simply ignore me. :shrug:

Eventually, the person who fired the first shot is forgotten, and all you're left with is retaliation after retaliation. Giving them a taste of their own medicine, tit-for-tat, whatever you want to call it, it's all the same cycle. That's no goal.

I don't use the ignore list, but I sometimes get frustrated when things are misquoted.

lol

lol

Meanwhile where was Dean during the war protests if he's such a big "anti-war" candidate?

Kerry served his country honorably and came back and helped stop the war. He helped Viet Nam vets against the War and helped get the Viet Nam Memorial built. That's in a span of a couple of years. He also was fairly responsible for helping start Earth Day at the time.

Meanwhile, Dean was nursing his bad back on ski slopes in Vail and dealing with his back bad while he poured concrete. And then...ahhh...yawn...then Dean went to Wall Street and....ahhhh.....yawn....zzzzzzzzz.

Can I get the gist of it, sans the B.S.?

I wish it had been a bit longer rather than the few minutes of the Peter Jennings interview. Kerry has a very complex intellect and showing short clips of sound bites does not do him justice.

On a more banal note, Kerry still has the same full head of hair that he had when he was one of the leaders of VVAW (don't forget Ron Kovic).

Overall I thought that Kerry did very well. His supporters should feel proud.

I came into the room just during the last word of that segment.

dates back to 1970s, and it was at the height of the Vietnam antiwar protests. I just wanted you to understand the context of the quote. The clip was in black & white, that's how old it was.

That's what annoys me about KK's post - these are the little things that grow into big things.

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