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windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:54 AM
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Edwards/Kerry/Clark/Dean donor demographics
while perusing open secrets info on the donor demographics of various candidates this is what I found out.

Chimpster...as we all know...is fat with fat cat cash
73% of his donations are $2000+ donors...only 12% less than $200

Edwards rakes in 65% of his donations from $2000+ donors
but ONLY 3% from donations less than $200....

Kerry is a teeny bit more grassroots...with 55% and 12% respectively

Contrasting with the above...Clark is way more grassroots in terms of campaign funding, with 31% from $2000+ donors and 35% from less than $200 donors.

The Dean campaign leads the pack in with 56% in donations of less than $200 and only 13% from $2000+ donors.






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windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:04 AM
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1. kick n/t
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:11 AM
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2. Wow. That's not too good looking for Bush.
But it's very flattering to Dean and Trippi. Most of their money came from little guys. I have to respect that, no matter how I feel about their proposals for how to govern the country. I still hope we beat them for the nomination and they join us in making Clark president...

But once this election and the Bush nightmare are over with, we must listen to what Dean's message is telling us. American must live up to its greatness or it will quit being America. Fifty six percent... DAYummmmm
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:14 AM
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3. Edwards has second poorest donors & they give largest % of salary
I'd be proud of getting people who make 50K to committ the maximum. Kerry may be more grass rootsy, but his donors' average income is in the 70K region, 20K more than Edwards and at the opposite end of the spectrum.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:20 AM
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6. Peoples incomes are alot lower across the south than Kerry's base
which is the New England/midatlantic big metros.

Edwards supporters is basically alot of working class southernors seeded by his wealthier connections in the lawyer community
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 03:16 AM
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15. Edwards got most of those 2000 donations in first quarter from
people who had a LOT of faith in him, and he was the first person to get donations from every state. His support is actually very broad. He raised more money than all other candidates combined in a couple of interesting states (TX, being one I remember).
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:16 AM
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4. no question Edwards wouldn't be where he is w/out people like himself
Namely other wealthy lawyers. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. He only has had 6 years in politics to set up donor connections and networks.

I don't think there's anything wrong with that though.

Otherwise he couldn't compete with people who get automatic gay and anti-war money like Dean and people like Gephardt who get Labor money.

Most of the candidates have these niche constituancies that they get moeny from in addition to the regular dem donor money

And Edwards just happens to a more exclusive and wealthy group than the others.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 03:19 AM
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17. I think he's gettin a lot of money from young lawyers just
starting up in firms that aren't national, but are very regional -- where starting salaries might be just above 60K. I think that's one reason that number is low. I don't think those lawyers are rich yet. I think they just see a world disappearing in which they'll be able to reap the rewards of their labors and in which their potential clients are denied access to justice.
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windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:11 PM
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20. so JK is running on a "save the lawyers" platform
yikes!!
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efront Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 03:23 PM
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29. You pegged me AP
I'm a young attorney who has donated several times to JRE. It's the first time I've contributed to a campaign and it has NOTHING to do with the fact Edwards was once an attorney. It's simply b/c he has the best ideas to better America.
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:19 AM
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5. I'm an ordinary folk, and I donate to Clark.
He's not owned by special interests.
He's not a bought and paid for pol.
He's a man of integrity.
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windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:23 AM
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7. good one Myra
I agree 100%
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 03:21 AM
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18. On Democracy Now I heard a guy talking about Clark's integrity:
He said last summer Clark was simultaneously (1) stirring up anxiety about airport security in the course of a gig on TV, (2) lobbying the federal government for contracts of a company which provided security services for airports, and (3) raising money for a presidential run, and "the public only knew about two of those activities, and that's a problem."
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aquanut Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:23 PM
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22. Are you OK with airport security?
I still think it stinks. I would much rather have had the money that went to finance the Iraq War be used on homeland security.
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windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:37 PM
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23. me too n/t
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:23 PM
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24. I'd like to know the truth about it, and I'm not sure if I trust
getting the truth from CNN and Clark when Clark's using his platform there to discuss something in which he has a fiduciary interest.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:25 AM
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8. I bet you'll see a big swing in those numbers for Kerry now.
He raised a lot of money early on from traditional Democratic donors, while most of the Internet small donations were going to Dean. Now that people are seeing that he is the man to beat Bush his online fundraising has skyrocketed.
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Jerseycoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:36 AM
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11. Kerry gets the bank nt
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:27 AM
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9. It's amazing how much money goes to Dean.
People really fucking believe in that man, no matter how much you hate him.
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Jerseycoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:36 AM
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10. Even today with all of their money gone up in smoke
They still believe.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 03:23 AM
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19. So what does that say?
Really... what does that say? Do you think you're being insulting?
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Jerseycoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:15 PM
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21. No insult intended nt
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:54 AM
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12. I think it just goes to show
that Dean & Clark have the most grassroots support, & are the 2 least accepted by the Establishment.
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windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:58 AM
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13. yes
amazing that Clark is labeled a republican voting lobbyist by Kerry when you look at the demographics of their support
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 03:13 AM
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14. Amen!
And what's disheartening to me, it that right now we're witnessing the people's voices not being heard. It's the insiders and those with the insider loot.

:puke:

I have a lot of respect for the Dean campaign, as it is as Clark's is, the voice of the people. Clark & Dean have national campaigns, sorry but Kerry & Edwards do not.

We've been working our tail off here for ballot access, and we're almost done. After months of standing in frigid temps, getting snarled at by repub's, & seeing the occasional Dean supporter while making our rounds, I have never, ever, seen 1, not 1 Kerry person. (And if they're around, you'd see them.) We know all of the Dean people and vice versa. I met a fellow from the Edwards campaign for the first time in December at a Democratic party. We had 3 people collecting signatures for Clark and Dean had about the same. The Edwards guy told us he had been collecting since March and there's no way he's gonna make the ballot. and "I wish he'd just drop out already." I was also told that Edwards won't be on two state ballots, can't remember which. Being able to get a candidate on the ballot by collecting petitions is a good sign of strong grassroots support. Sad to see the media hype and insiders driving this process....
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windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 03:17 AM
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16. hang in there
this thing ain't over by a long shot...and keep up the good work for Clark...a candidate WORTH working your tail off for

:kick:
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:46 PM
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25. I thought there was a cap on donations of $2,000, so there
couldn't be any one donor who contributes more than $2,000 (if a candidate participates in the federal matching funds thing). Correct? If so, then Edwards' contributors did not average over $2K each, correct?

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windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 02:02 PM
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26. that's how they list them here
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 02:06 PM
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27. There is a 2,000 cap - even for family members
also, candidates cannot accept funds from corporations in a federal election.
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Ivote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 02:12 PM
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28. I'M with Myra
poor living on SS but give what I can. My vote counts just as much as any $2000.00 contributer
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