Why is it that the KKK can exist, but family planning clinics, can't ?

Does the KKK not kill? Do they not murder people that they feel are 'unworthy' of existing?

Yet, a woman should not be allowed to even consider doing anything that enables her to determine when or if she should or could concieve a child?

They say they are against 'murder' but the KKK is allowed to exist--though their intent is clearly to 'murder.'

Maybe this argument or comparison is naive on my part--but I really don't get it...

... who opposes the two groups.

The Left, although they despise the KKK with every fiber of their being, respect the right to freedom of speech enough to let them have their say as long as they aren't doing anything illegal.

The Right on the other hand have no respect for anyone's opinion or way of life but their own. Any difference is perceived as either inferior or evil and must be stamped out.

That is why you don't hear about KKK headquarters being blown up.

Family planing clinics kill innocent fetuses so they deserve to be harangued. :sarcasm:

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It just seems so unbalanced to me. It's ok to terrorize people of color, jews, gays, etc. AND it's ok to terrorize women and their rights.

When is it NOT ok to terrorize in this country?
When it hurts someone on the right apparently--or someone whose cause they can champion for their own devices (i.e. Schiavo).

Then you can do whatever the hell you want to it (the exception being if it is hooked up to life support).

are a dime a dozen, dontcha' know?

Hi KitchenWitch! :hi:

I forgot that exception. D'oh! :dunce:

that the KKK, while hateful, goes along with the conservatives, their conservative past. They may not agree with the KKK, but, it doesn't threaten their ideals, their philosophy or their history. The KKK may not like the "liberal" leanings of conservatives (the less racist conservatives), but they identify with them and support them. KKK doesn't threaten the conservatives.

Whereas Planned Parenthood is all about helping women and treating them as responsible adults with the right to choose to have children or not. THAT does threaten their ideals. Planned Parenthood does NOT embrace conservatism in general, and at this point in time, not at all.

Most basically, the difference is hate. KKK hates, and to the neocons, this is worthy and good thing. They understand it Planned Parenthood is about love and caring for women, and neocons hate women and womanly things, so they simply cannot accept PP. PP doesn't hate, so PP is wrong. Period. These types see black and white, and they can't see love without hate. They need to hate. KKK works for them. PP doesn't.

Figure out what makes life good, and mess it up for them. Figure out what their problems are, and make them worse. Make sure you're on top of the pile, even if it means pushing other people down to get there. Justify it anyway you can. Religion is handy, and impossible to argue. Faith.

It's so pathetically easy to see. What I don't see is a way to change it.

unfortunately, I don't see a way to change it either...

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... What I don't see is a way to change it.

determine when or if she has a child. They help both men and women in choices of birth control, provide counciling,education, medical care on a financial sliding scale (at least the one up here does)and if a woman should find out she is pregnant, they provide counciling (sometimes to both people involved) and explain alternatives (adoption, abortion, ect.). They don't perform abortions, nor do they promote them. They provide choices.

This is the problem with people who oppose places like family planning, they are uneducated and ignorant of the facts. If they were not around, women, like myself, with out insurance would not be able to receive certain medical care and birth control perscriptions at an affordable price.

...however, the other 99% is family planning - helping families decide when they are having kids and how many. By having fewer children, families can pull themselves up out of the poverty line instead of like the days of your where a poor woman would be stuck popping out 10-12 kids and the dad figuring out how to pay for all of them. More kids meant less of your children went to college and more of those kids would be available for low-paying jobs in the rich man's company.

Never ever think the abortion fight is about saving babies. Oh sure some religious fanatic might think that but they are merely the sheeps repeating the message that Squealer taught them to say. No, our fat pigs, walking on 2 legs and wearing suits, want to take away control from families and help put us back into poverty. Remember the main group of people who use Family Planning clinics like Planned Parenthood isn't the wealthy but the lower income families. God forbid these lower income families attempt to do something that could prevent them from limiting the number of children in a safe, non-effective manner thus allowing them to afford the children they have and maybe even get a few of them off to college.

perform abortions, they just provide counseling. That's what I'm getting from the beginning of your post. The rest I fully agree with.

I was harassed by the idiots at family planning clinics--when I was merely there to have my yearly PaP. :wtf:

Once I even asked the people (anti-choice folks), if they were aware that the clinic did MORE than offer abortions? The day I was there wasn't even an abortion day... They just looked confused, and kept handing me pamphlets. Bunch of psychos. :crazy:

I know from experience exactly what you are talking about Maine-ah. I relied for many years on those clinics for basic reproductive health care services, aside from abortion and family planning.

...if they could without being criticize.

I almost have to give a little recogniztion to those who join the KKK because at least they let yoou know exactly how they think unlike the neo-con fundie xtians who definately don't like poor folks especially those in minorities but don't want to deal with the hassle associated with the KKK.

Look at all those rich folks from New Orleans and other fundies who want to build New Orleans minus the Ninth Ward and minorities. Hell they might as well slap on a white sheet and hood because even though they aren't KKK they are pretty much asking to build what could be considered a KKK wet dream.

I get so angry with those types. The ones that claim to be 'fiscal conservatives' but who get behind every racist and bigoted idea that the neo cons support. It's sickening.

Then they back it up with these old stereotypes regarding ethnicities. They go on and on about it, like it's fact--where so many have never even personally known ANYONE of the race or sexual orientation they claim to KNOW ALL ABOUT.

They think working with some mexican guy, or having sat next to 'a gay' in a college class is the same as knowing them and what their lives are like.

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It has been unkindly said that the Klan is simply the armed wing of the Southern Baptists. It is not strictly true, of course, but it is undeniable that the Klan simoly says openly what a lot of people on the other side of the "culture war" divide say at their kitchen tables....

political correctness, but were strangely silent when people were racially incorrect. The way people can be so caustic at Clinton's lies about sex, but call lies regarding national security, legal technicalities. To put it quite simply, because they are fucktards!

you are correct--they are fucktards, totally and completely brainwashed.

They quote limbaugh like what he says isn't opinion but fact--without ever taking the time to investigate for themselves. I can't tell you how tired of them with all their 'liberal media' bullshit.

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than people who only spread hatred and fear. :sarcasm:

Besides, silly goose--sex is ONLY for procreation anyway!

What the male freepers do behind closed doors with their mistresses isn't really sex now is it? As long as they don't actually acknowledge it as a sex act, it's not.:spank: Period.

Until Larry Flynt finds the mistress and pays her a million dollars to expose their hypocracy.

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and fight their silly wars for them.

priviledge. Besides, they give them ALL those benefits--college grants, job training the opportunity to give their lives meaning...


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family planning clinics? Just a guess.

Connect the dots -- they are everywhere.

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I don't get how the more moderate people of the party don't see that...

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Well heavens to Betsy!