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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 12:48 PM
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Reuters: Abortion least-known measure in California ballot
Abortion least-known measure in California ballot
Wed Nov 2, 2005 11:04 AM ET

By Jill Serjeant

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - California, seen as one of the most sexually
liberated U.S. states, could limit teenagers' access to abortion next
week in the least known but most divisive ballot measure in a
lackluster special election.

Proposition 73 asks voters to decide whether doctors should be
required by law to notify parents or guardians of girls under 18,
48 hours before they can legally perform abortions or administer
the so-called morning-after pill RU-486.
<snip>
DROWNED OUT

What worries those in the "No" camp most is that the measure would
insert language into the California state constitution that defines
abortion as the death of "a child conceived but not yet born".

If passed -- and Proposition 73 is too close to call in opinion polls
-- this language could be used to challenge the legality of hormonal
birth control pills and open the way to interpreting abortion as
murder, opponents say. Backers of the measure deny any back-door
assault on wider abortion rights.
<snip>

Full article: http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyID=2005-11-02T160344Z_01_SIB252178_RTRUKOC_0_US-LIFE-ABORTION.xml
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 12:51 PM
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1. Six more days...
I'm very opitmistic. This cannot win.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 12:53 PM
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2. Does anybody know the actual wording yet?
That's what Georgia does all the time. For the ballot, they phrase a referendum is a way that sounds completely different than what it really is.

I know in 2004, I had to call 3 different places to find out what in the hell the Ref. really meant. For voters who don't take the time to find out, it's just TS. They find out what they did, but after it's too late!
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 01:01 PM
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4. go here- there is a link to the actual wording
Edited on Wed Nov-02-05 01:02 PM by Beaverhausen
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 01:09 PM
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9. In CA, we get a voters pamphlet with the actual wording
Most do not read it, though. Our summaries are written by a non-partisan office so it's fairly accurate. We have too many propositions on the ballot and it would take hours to read them. I only read them when I have a question about the wording. I review the summary and the arguements for and against the proposition which are also in the pamphlet.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 01:00 PM
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3. the latest field poll shows it losing.
Initially groups, Teachers, Nurses, Firefighters, Police, various
Unions...were reluctant 2 include 73 on their 'NO' list. They didn't want 2 alienate middle of the road 'NO' votes - whatever that is. That group think forced Planned Parenthood 2 devise their own NO campaign on 73. Recently the Teachers, Nurses etc began including the information on their precinct walks. I know from my experience in getting out the 'NO in NOvember' vote, once people hear it is a CA Constitution amendment and that the burden 2 inform the parent(s) is on the doctor...it is the DR who is fined or jailed if the parents are not informed...they decide it is wrong and will vote no.

A little education goes a long way.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 01:03 PM
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6. Nix on six - yes on two
Nix on 73,74,75,75,76,77, yes on 79 & 80

I voted absentee. No polling place here in the mountains.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 01:03 PM
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5. I voted yesterday.
No on everything except 79 & 80.

Ah-nold probably isn't happy with me.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 01:04 PM
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7. Ditto here,
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 01:06 PM
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8. Hey, do you know of a link where I can find a polling place?
Thanks in advance. I didn't have much luck finding one.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 01:11 PM
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10. Contact your local Registrar....here's links from the state
http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/elections_ppl.htm

If you can't find it, then send me a PM with your location and I'll find it for you. :hi:
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 01:14 PM
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11. Thanks!! This should help. nt
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 01:39 PM
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12. I went to the County Clerk's office.
That's probably the easiest thing to do. Bring your ID (driver's license)
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 01:49 PM
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13. arnold's phone message smear against planned parenthood.....
as I posted yesterday.

christofascists phone messages have a woman who claims her daughter's boyfriend's mom forced the daughter out of school and made her go to a planned parenthood office where the daughter was forced to have an abortion and the original mom could do nothing to stop the abortion.

the woman did not say she was an actor reading a script. it was portrayed as a real person story.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 01:50 PM
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14. RU-486 is not the "so called morning after pill"
You would think Reuters could get this right.
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