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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 04:55 PM
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Carl Rove May Lose His Security Clearance
Bwaahahahahah...no special meetings for Carl anymore, it appears:

Is Rove a Security Risk?
Because he disclosed Plame’s CIA identity to reporters, the Bush aide could lose his clearance.

Nov. 2, 2005 - The conventional wisdom in Washington this week is that Karl Rove is out of the woods. But while an indictment against him in the Valerie Plame leak case is now unlikely, he may be in danger of losing his security clearance.

According to last week’s indictment of Scooter Libby, a person identified as “Official A” held conversations with reporters about Plame’s identity as a an undercover CIA operative, information that was classified. News accounts subsequently confirmed that that official was Rove. Under Executive Order 12958, signed by President Clinton in 1995, such a disclosure is grounds for, at a minimum, losing access to classified information.

Section 5.1 of Clinton’s executive order prohibits “any knowing, willful or negligent action that could reasonably be expected to result in an unauthorized disclosure of classified information.” While the law against revealing the identity of a CIA operative requires that the perpetrator intentionally disclosed such classified information (a high standard, which may be one reason Fitzgerald did not indict on those grounds), the executive order covers “negligence,” or unintentional disclosure

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9899512/site/newsweek/
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 04:57 PM
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1. Then he'd be about as useful as an ice tray in the Arctic.
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LiberalEZ Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 04:57 PM
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2. He should
And he should - he is evil!

"I hate them so much!"
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maximovich Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 05:00 PM
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7. Weird Little Closet Case Isn't He...
the way he follows Bush around staring at him. Very starnge for a guy supposedly married.
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kweerwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 05:21 PM
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16. Rove always remind me of Mr. Smithers to Bush's Mr. Burns
Of course that analogy has limits since Burns is an evil genius and Bush is just ... well ... "evil."
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maximovich Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 05:27 PM
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17. Good One...
I see it.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 04:57 PM
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3. Nah...Bush has done whatever he wants up 'til now.
A little thing like National Security won't stand in his way.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 04:58 PM
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4. Conventional Wisdom has
been wrong before.."The conventional wisdom in Washington this week is that Karl Rove is out of the woods."
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 05:00 PM
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6. They are dreaming and we are their worst nightmare!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 05:44 PM
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18. Yeah, Asleep at the
Wheels again!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 06:29 PM
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20. I think they may have been shocked into a state of
consciousness again. Watch out for mass theivery, slander, and killing on a large scale.
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Check12 Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 04:58 PM
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5. Here's the question everyone should be asking (simple logic)
Did Rove lie if he told Bush he had nothing to do with it, or was Bush deceiving the American people when he denied knowing the guilty party ? Either way, why is Rove still working at the White House ?
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 05:00 PM
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8. CCCarl doesn't work as well as KKKarl
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 05:03 PM
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9. don't know why, but i'm beginning to think...
Karl is a blow-fish swimming with sharks.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 05:46 PM
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19. "Blowfish" sure describes
the image karl projects.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 05:04 PM
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10. He should lose his job, too,

and probably thirty years or so of his freedom. I really hope the portly weasel doesn't skate on this.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 05:09 PM
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11. Rightfully so, I hope he loses a hell of a lot more! n/t
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 05:12 PM
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12. It Rove and Co were so careless that they revealed a covert op
what else did they blab about and to who?
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 05:17 PM
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13. And how do we know that rove is "out of the woods," and that "an
indictment against him in the Valerie Plame leak case is now unlikely"???

I haven't seen anything yet to back that up. Anybody else? Or is it more likely that - hey, MSNBC, your BIAS is showing..."
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 05:18 PM
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14. So why would he lose this IF HE WASN'T A LEAKER?
This is contradictory to the idea that he was somehow innocent.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 05:20 PM
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15. I agree with that
I don't think he's out of the woods at all.

In fact, I think he's in a deep dark forest surrounded by wolves and the media is in denial
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