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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:19 PM
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Poll question: Leader Reid is ......
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:20 PM
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1. A god or a saint...
how could I choose otherwise?

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:43 PM
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9. A total god
wraped in the body of a boxer who's more like a moderate democrat.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:23 PM
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2. Fine by me.
n/t
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:25 PM
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4. A Dem who has some balls...about time, and thank G-d!
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:24 PM
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3. Liberal, moderate, conservative, I don't really care right now.
All that matters to me is a Democrat with balls, something in short supply until just recently. Harry HAS balls, so I don't care what label he wears.

:applause:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:30 PM
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5. Eh ..... who cares?
He's been kicking ass and taking names later. He's done more in one year than Tom Daschel did in 4 years.

I like this dude!
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:42 PM
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8. Eh...Who cares?
Reid is a fighter.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 10:32 PM
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13. You HAVE to be kidding me
Edited on Thu Nov-03-05 10:35 PM by depakid
Name ONE thing that Reid has done.

One nominee or piece of far right legislation that he's managed to defeat? (or even tried to fight). The guy allowed three of the most extreme judges to ever be appointed a lifetime seat on the federal bench!

He even crossed party lines to vote with the Republicans on the bankruptcy bill.

You'd be hard pressed to look through history and find a WORSE minority "leader" than Reid. Some fighter. LOL

He's rolled over on everything. He'll probably roll over on Alito too.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 12:38 AM
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19. You wouldn't have to look too far into history
Daschle was MUCH worse. I don't miss that jellyfish at all. At least Harry shows his spine some of the time. Though I won't pretend there isn't room for improvement. But how many senators CAN'T we say that about?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 07:20 AM
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30. How do figure?
Edited on Fri Nov-04-05 07:20 AM by depakid
Daschle actually won a few fights. Reid hasn't won anything- nor really even fought anything, and Dems keep crossing party lines under his "leadership."

All Harry Reid does is talk- and then fail to back it up with action.

Frankly, I'd rather see someone who just did away with all the big talk and actually acted in ways that made the Dems relevant again.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:39 PM
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6. too bad he's anti-choice. eom
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:44 PM
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10. And you know this how?
All you know is he's pro-life. I'm pro-life but I'd die fighting for Roe V Wade. :eyes: to you on your Reid talking point.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 11:20 PM
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16. i am sorry if semantics got in our way.
Edited on Thu Nov-03-05 11:27 PM by ellenfl
i prefer the term "anti-choice" to "pro-life". the term "pro-life" is used by anti-choicers to imply that those of us who are for choice are against life . . . that's always been my opinion anyway.

make no mistake . . . he is looking pretty heroic to me . . . and his stand on choice is less important, especially since he is not actively working to overturn roe.

ellen fl
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 12:30 AM
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18. There is a big difference between "pro-life" and "anti-choice"
What you call "anti-choice" connote someone who opposes abortion, but not only supports, but encourages, the death penalty, aggressive war, and/or economic and social injustice. Real pro-lifers oppose all of the aforementioned.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 12:40 AM
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20. common usage of 'pro-life' relates to abortion.
i agree that it should apply to all life, but most who call themselves pro-life are pro-war and pro-death penalty. you are entitled to your definition but it is not the mainstream definition. 'pro-life' has connoted anti-choice since roe v. wade became law. i used to use pro-life to describe opponents of abortion until i became a clinic escort. i came to resent being on the defensive to the semantics.

ellen fl
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:50 PM
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11. He's anti-gay, too.
Fortunately, he's pro-gun.

Democrats need to buy more guns.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:10 AM
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23. may I respectfully ask (since I don't know and have not heard that before)
How is he anti-gay?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 07:22 AM
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31. Despite being against the marriage amendment, he's against equal rights
He says he's against the amendment because it's "un-necessary."

His lifetime score with the ACLU is only 43%
http://action.aclu.org/site/VoteCenter?page=combLegScore

It is my opinion that this makes him anti-gay, although others disagree with me:

Candidate Profile

A leader we can count on: As Senate Democratic Whip, Reid holds an influential leadership position in rallying Democrats around the issues that matter. He is not only a supportive friend, but also a strategic ally. During his time in the U.S. Senate, Reid has a good record on GLBT issues and earned a 100% rating on the most recent HRC Congressional Scorecard.

Reid opposes the Federal Marriage Amendment and any other amendment that seeks to write discrimination into the United States Constitution and he is using his influential leadership position to help ensure a victory should the amendment come up for a vote. He is a cosponsor of both the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA) and the Local Law Enforcement Enhancement Act (hate crimes legislation).

More:
https://www.hrc.org/candidateFundraising/index.cfm?fuseaction=candidateProfile&electionCycleID=37&fullList=0&cfid=170283&cftoken=79116559



<snip>

A lawyer by training, Reid was a skilled welterweight boxer as a young man. Thus the famous Reid quote: "I would always rather dance than fight but I know how to fight." Part of Reid's successful political dance has been the ability to climb the leadership ladder as a Democrat who opposes abortion rights, gun control, and gay marriage.

More:
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1101/p25s01-usmb.html


That was just the first thing I found at the top of the google list.


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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:41 PM
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7. he's my hero n/t
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 10:04 PM
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12. Someone said..
... "faith without works is dead".

I'd much rather have a "moderate" who will DO SOMETHING than someone more attuned to a more liberal philosophy who will let Bush kick sand in his face over and over.

We could use about 50 more Reids, moderate or not.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 10:58 PM
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14. I went with "conservative Dem," because of the anti-choice factor,
Edited on Thu Nov-03-05 10:59 PM by BlueIris
though for the first time in my life, I'm alright with that. I'm told that a) he's anti-choice because his constituents demand it and b) he'd rather not be. Actual constituents of Harry Reid, feel free to jump in here and tell us what he really is. I'm okay with what Reid is doing because to me, it appears as if he wants to make sure that his decisions are the best he can make to keep the Democratic Party alive, and that these decisions effect an actual strategy as well as what is best for all of our voters. I don't see any of those goals as being about inflicting a misogynist, anti-choice view on the Party or anyone in it. Also, he's a fighter. And a smart one, too. He knows that support for Bush is actually very weak, and what keeps Bush in power is a) public perception of the Dems as losers and Republicans as "winners," and b) the ever-present threat of retaliation from the far right if Dems look like they're trying to move the country to a "hard left." Some of you on this board know what I'm talking about, WRT the threat posed by the hard rightists in this country. It's real. Reid is mindful of this, and doing the best he can to fight effectively for us under those circumstances.
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 02:17 AM
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28. Well said!
He's who John McCain wishes he were, and who we wish more Republicans were like. Don't hold your breath on any Republicans growing cojones any time soon, however.


:toast: :toast:

Buy from small family owned farms! The US would save millions of gallons in oil if they stopped importing out of season fruits and vegetables.
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Raiden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 11:04 PM
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15. A moderate for sure---but he certainly is pragmatic
He's a great leader as far as I can see, just like Pelosi and of course Howard Dean
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 12:06 AM
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17. I think he is essentially a conservative Democrat
still because of his willingness to fight -- He has my support

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:02 AM
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:08 AM
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22. welcome to DU
How would you classify Sen. Reid?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:12 AM
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:16 AM
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25. may I ask
Edited on Fri Nov-04-05 01:22 AM by Douglas Carpenter
what Democrat leader would not be too left for you? and what postions does Sen. Reid hold that are by any wild stretch of the imagination leftist?
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Daylin Byak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:32 AM
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26. What do I think Sen. Harry Reid(D-NV) is?
well he's a democrat, a good one
he's a better minority leader than Tom Daschle
he's a saint
he's a fighter and knows what is best for this great country

Nuff said.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:40 AM
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27. God- but seriously-I agree with him on several important issues. n/t
n/t
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moki Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 05:06 AM
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29. Pinky
pinky is perfect
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 08:26 AM
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32. Who's "Pinky?" nt
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:39 PM
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33. "Pinky" is a REAL life tough guy, not a drunk idiot in a costume.
Edited on Fri Nov-04-05 01:41 PM by Dr Fate
From a humble back-ground, "Pinky" is a former boxer and a dude who took on the Vegas Mob.

And Bush? A Rich country-club snob whos greatest accomplishment is polishing off hundreds of bottles of "JD" and snorting enough coke to kill the Iraqi Republican Guard.

I'll take "Pinky" over "Shrub" ANY DAY.
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moki Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 02:33 PM
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35. Who's Pinky?
Thats Harry Reids nickname here in Nevada
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 03:51 PM
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37. "Storm'in Mormon" is what I call him. He outwitted the crooks once again.
Edited on Fri Nov-04-05 03:54 PM by Dr Fate
I dont give a crap what Freepers may or may not call him- the dude is a bad-ass.

Bush? An effeminate, drunk faker who belongs in the country club lounge, not D.C.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:41 PM
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34. Better than Daschle, that much is sure
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 03:35 PM
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36. ...a flawed politician?
Like most of them?

I'll always support someone when they, say, force the Republicans into a closed session, and always denigrate them when they, say, vote to give away their constitutionally-mandated duty to decide on going to war.

I really don't get why it has to be all good/all evil with regards to Dems, or anyone (not that you're saying that - I dig your posts).

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