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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 10:08 PM
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DU Jerry Doyle's poll on the libby indictment
Q: With the 5 count indictment of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, VP Dick Cheney's Chief of Staff, do you think this will start an "accountability trend" in politics today?

Answer Percent
No
82%
Yes
18%

http://www.jerrydoyle.com/
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LibinMo Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 10:11 PM
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1. Done
No 82%
Yes 18%

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 10:12 PM
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2. done, , , , , ,n/t
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 10:15 PM
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3. done
Everyone is figuring out that absolute power corrupts. W and his administration's corruption showed us the need for accountability.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 10:31 PM
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4. Who is Jerry Doyle?
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 10:31 PM
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5. Done
Q: With the 5 count indictment of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, VP Dick Cheney's Chief of Staff, do you think this will start an "accountability trend" in politics today?


Answer Percent

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No 80%

Yes 21%


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Bill219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 12:30 AM
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6. Is this the same Jerry Doyle...
That was on Babylon 5?

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 07:24 AM
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7. Michael Garibaldi who stood-up to Nightwatch joined them in real life
Edited on Fri Nov-04-05 07:32 AM by IanDB1
Fucking asshole, isn't he?

Jerry Doyle
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.


Jerry Doyle (born 16 July, 1956 in Brooklyn, New York) is an American actor best known for his role as Michael Garibaldi on the 1990s science fiction television series Babylon 5. His other science fiction acting credits include Sliders and Gangster World.

Previously a corporate jet pilot and a stockbroker, Doyle made an abrupt career change into acting in 1991, and Babylon 5 was his first significant role. In 2000, Doyle unsuccessfully ran for the United States House of Representatives in California's 24th Congressional district (Ventura and Santa Barbara counties, to the northwest of Los Angeles), as a Republican. He later severed his ties with the party, and now declares himself an independent.

Doyle is the ex-husband of actress Andrea Thompson who played the role of telepath Talia Winters in the first two seasons of Babylon 5.

Doyle is now a talk radio host on several networks nationwide, discussing politics, current events, and popular culture. On his radio show he coined the phrase "Grapefruit Mentality" referring to the public's fascination with issues and celebrities that don't really matter. He currently resides in Las Vegas, Nevada with his fiancée.

More:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Doyle




1 of 22. Solex ANS Yamato, Sector 5, Sol System | Member 12177, Joined Mar 06, 2003 | 253 posts

Posted: 2004-07-24 02:46

For those of you who remember Babylon 5, President Clark was the head of the Earth Alliance (who built Babylon 5); he killed a previous president with the help of the Shadows. He then set up a dictatorship complete with secret police (Nightwatch, Psi-Corps) and also sent Earthforce against rebel populations. The current U.S. president's behaviour sounds similar to that of Clark's except there's no breakaway force of millitary people willing to fight Bush and unseat him.

So, does anyone think that Bush & Clark were 'seperated at birth'?


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6 of 22. ExecBranch4Dummies Northern California - God's Favorite Vacation Spot | Member 4735, Joined Feb 05, 2002 | 329 posts

Posted: 2004-07-24 07:20


Bruce Boxleitner went to the White House a few years ago with his wife, SAG president Melissa Gilbert. Karl Rove came out of his bunker, especially keen to meet Bruce, gushed how Bab 5 was one of his favorite shows and that GWB loved it, too.

Boxleitner relayed this info to J. Michael Straczynski, who was so depressed we said he slept for about three days.

By the way, I found out about Smirking Chimp from a freind who saw a recommendation for it on JMS's website.

XB4D


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9 of 22. talhazelden Maine | Member 9623, Joined Nov 12, 2002 | 1752 posts

Posted: 2004-07-24 11:21

Quote:On 2004-07-24 07:20, ExecBranch4Dummies wrote:

Bruce Boxleitner went to the White House a few years ago with his wife, SAG president Melissa Gilbert. Karl Rove came out of his bunker, especially keen to meet Bruce, gushed how Bab 5 was one of his favorite shows and that GWB loved it, too.

Boxleitner relayed this info to J. Michael Straczynski, who was so depressed we said he slept for about three days.

By the way, I found out about Smirking Chimp from a freind who saw a recommendation for it on JMS's website.

XB4D



While JMS, the creator of Babylon 5 was always coy about his exact political self-identification, from his wonderful television sci-fi drama, and his personal writings/observations, I've gleaned that he is somewhat left-of-center and most certainly hostile towards any form of politics that's as far to the right as the modern American neoconservatism currently is.

It's known by B5 fans that Bruce Boxlietner and Jerry Doyle, who played Captain Sheridan and Chief Garibaldi respectively, were very much self-identified conservative Republicans. But this never affected the working relationship between the actors and the shows creator/writer, JMS.

'MissMarple' is usually a wonderful contributor to SmirkingChimp, but I'd have to step in and apologize. Babylon 5 is loaded with very serious themes of government and society... even terrorism and the police state. I see Clark as Cheney. For me, Bush is just the shill, like Morden. A puppet.

Babylon 5 is a wonderful series, not just as a sci-fi show, but as a television show. It's involving because it has much character development, often good dialog, acting, drama, grand themes of good, 'grey', and evil. Most importantly, it is structured with a beginning. middle, and end. Most television shows are formatted in a standard and progress so long as there is a sizable viewership. JMS re-invented the episodic epic for television.

I gotta dust off my old B5 video tapes! Fond memories!

"The ascension of the ordinary man"
http://babylon5.isnnews.net/


Babylon 5 - The Babylon Project

The Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5
http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/lurker.html



< This message was edited by: talhazelden on 2004-07-24 11:21 >

More:
http://smirkingchimp.com/viewtopic.php?topic=44217&forum=10


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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 07:35 AM
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8. No 77%, Yes 23%
Q: With the 5 count indictment of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, VP Dick Cheney's Chief of Staff, do you think this will start an "accountability trend" in politics today?

Answer Percent
No
77%
Yes
23%

http://www.jerrydoyle.com/

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