What did Lawrence Wilkerson say 11/4 on PBS Jim Lehrer

Did he say that the administration thought that they could overthrow
Saddam Hussein and install Chelabi and then just leave after 3 or 4 months, did I hear that correctly???

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Subject: Democrats Standing Firm Against Treason
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 12:36:04 -0800
From: Congressman John Conyers <john.conyers@johnconyers.com>
Reply-To: 1999992949.173156.105@conyersforcongress.com
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November 4, 2005

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Democrats Standing Firm Against Treason


Returning from the Rosa Parks memorial ceremony in Detroit this week, I have been encouraged by the principled stands that many of my Democratic colleagues have taken.

Earlier this week, Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid invoked a rarely used parliamentary procedure to demand on the Senate floor that Republicans provide answers to questions about the administration's use of pre-war intelligence. When Senate Republicans were confronted with the need to come clean with the American people and put our nation's security ahead of propping up a sinking administration, you would have thought someone took away their pacifiers.

"Never have I been slapped in the face with such an affront to the leadership of this grand institution." - Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist

Sorry Senator Frist, but having to face questions about why we are fighting a war based on flawed intelligence is not an affront, it's your job. It's disappointing that you consider this responsibility such a burden.

This week, joined by my House colleagues Henry Waxman and Maurice Hinchey, I called on Vice President Cheney to testify before Congress. In the 1970s, Cheney served as Deputy Chief of Staff to President Gerald Ford who agreed to appear before Congress to explain his reasons for pardoning President Nixon. While I am not expecting a speedy answer from the Vice President, I believe the country deserves to hear his reasons for outing a covert agent and undermining our intelligence community. .

I would be remiss if I did not highlight a principled Republican standing up to speak the truth. Former Chief of Staff to Colin Powell, Larry Wilkerson, attracted a lot of attention when he chose to speak publicly about a cabal led by Cheney and Rumsfeld co-opting our national security policy for their own purposes. What was perhaps most illuminating was Wilkerson's interview on NPR's Morning Edition yesterday when he explained that Cheney himself directed the policy of detainee abuse in Abu Ghraib. How was Wilkerson so sure? Because Cheney asked him to collect all the documents and records of communications within the administration on this issue. I wonder where those documents are now?

The DCCC has also been engaged in some creative work following the Libby indictments. They have produced a short video that includes clips of many of the promises Republicans made to get to the bottom of the Valerie Plame leak. This piece includes the Bush Sr. declaration that the lowest form of treason is revealing a spy, the current president’s promises to fire anyone involved in the leak, and former RNC Chairman Ed Gillespie affirming that this was worse than Watergate.

I will be posting this email on my blog, http://conyersblog.us and would encourage any of you to come to this site and post any comments you may have. I will be checking in periodically throughout the weekend to respond to postings.

Thank you for your help and your continued stand for a better democracy.
Sincerely,
http://www.conyersforcongress.com/mail/util.cfm?mailaction=clickthru&gpiv=1999992949.173156.105&gen=1&mailing_linkid=2029
John Conyers, Jr.

in WH.

famous 16 words).

any decision was open--all sitting around.

shoulders!!

the plan. ever since this plan failed we have been chasing the war.

because the enviroment is different (war on terror). I did nto catch the second one.

for changeing things that the commander in chief can do-simply because of the 'war on teror'

Plans to make the case for war.

elected.

almost said he was a disgrunted employee!!!

But in his interview tonight, I am almost sure that he said that the
plan was to go into Iraq install Chelabi and then leave after 3-4 months, and when that did not work they have been working on a game of pick up ever since. (Since I am not a sports fan, I have no clue what they are referring to here.)

who just promoted to chief of staff by Cheney!!!!

geech!!

but beginning to get their war together now!

thought so also.

under false pretensences. no one cares it Bill Clinton or other reports say SH had weapons.

administration is not in control.

frustrated!! )--good.

Shields is talking about it.

issue of Bush and Rove

this--Rove think of new agenda!!--what is Bush doing. He sure gave it away with this one!

Bush on this one.

http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=1074 - Oops that's NPR - sorry long day! Good transcript any way -

Wilkerson on How Dick Cheney Promoted Torture
Larry Wilkinson discussed Dick Cheney’s role in the Iraq War, including the torture of detainees, in an interview on NPR’s Morning Edition earlier this week.

and that we better have evidence for such a charge, well I think the 5 indictments against Libby are based on evidence and then there's the DSM! Shields countered with the statement that there's a mountain of evidence that Bush planned to go to war way before 2003,
even back in 01, they were talking about war with Iraq. It's true
Richard Clarke mentions they were discussing it 17 hours after the
bombings at 9:00 am on 9-11.

Page 30 Against all Enemies by Richard Clarke

"Then I realized with almost a sharp physical pain that Rumsfeld and
Wolfowitz were going to try to take advantage of this national tragedy (9-11) to promote their agenda about Iraq. Since the beginning of the administration, indeed well before, they had been
pressing for a war with Iraq. My friends in the Pentagon had been telling me that the word was we would be invading Iraq sometime in
2002." (This happened at 2:00 am on Weds, NYC had been bombed at 9:00 am Tuesday).

get an investigation and a debate. We might show him proof.

Who cares? They'll just move the goalpost again.

We care, it's time someone shut off the spin cycle, this administration is built on lies and deceit.

Unbelievable.

Randy Scheunemann, private consultant and former president of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq

I agree with Rodeodance, this guy gave me the creeps

said it was a smear campaign. David Corn retorted that nothing personal had been said and they were just discussing policy and did Addington write the torture policy or did he not?

He had the facts to burn thru the spin. Also something is bothering
me. I heard talking points by Sean Hannity on the Stephanie Miller show last night. They are exactly the same as what David Brooks was
saying. It's frightening to think that these points are just faxed
around to be repeated on the air. How is this journalism?

and this was when they were leading the nation into war!

Note that we take it as a give that the Chimp doesn't read anything.

But I remember Shields countered Brooks claim that everybody thought
Saddam Hussein had nuclear weapons with the statement that it did not matter what everyone thoought but Bush MADE the decision to go war so it's his RESPONSIBILITY.

but then that stupid Freedom March spoiled all their fascistic plans. Chalabu couldn't get elected; no Iraqis trust him.

Isn't it funny that we put all our faith in people that can't be trusted.

Calling On Colin!!! Powell is really such a Dipshit, he has ALL the answers!!

Someone will talk especially since the UN is saying the US should pay
Iraq back 200 million due to Halliburton. I saw the headline on
Rawstory.com

leads to ulcers!! But I do think Fitz is making inroads. I just want Powell EXPOSED! His image IS NOT "the reality" of who he REALLY is!

I think he was given information, I think that it took him a while
to realize how much fabrication there was, remember this was the
White House, the mantle of authority and credibility that comes with
the presidency camouflaged the duplicity of these men.

Powell's FIRST! He does have quite a history that's non too becoming!

It certainly would be nice if he could FINALLY just stand up and say... Hey, over here, got something to tell you!

and he did not bring a lawyer, quite a change of pace, do you realize
that Bush has hired his own criminal lawyer, not the White House counsel, loyalist, I think you're the greatest-Harriet Miers.

I am still mad at him for not being more upfront about what went on.